Car braki pipe and hose replacement cost?

[Ribenapigeon]

Anyone had brake pipes and/or hoses fitted recently to a small car? What kind of cost is it these days?

Ive advisories on the hoses and pipes. Im thinking apart from the fact it's bloody awkward doing anything on a car and nuts are always stiff (along with my back ) the hoses I could do myself but putting in pipes is a bit more involved so I might split the cost by doing the hoses myself but leave the pipes. However given im going to be crawling around under a wheel arch maybe I should have a crack at the pipes ad well. Thoughts, advice, sympathy all welcome.

Cheers.

[Easy-X]

Brake hoses are trivial in price for most cars £10~£30* and easy to fit if you can manage to get 'em undone. Hard lines though? Be very unusual for them to degrade significantly

Just hoses you might get away with the old "latex glove under the fluid reservoir cap" trick to minimise the bleed operation but with hard lines and practically draining the whole system you might need to look into how the ABS unit will react.

*Once you find the correct part for your make/model of car check again on the hose part number. A Ford specific one might be twice the price of a generic one for essentially the same part.
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[Ribenapigeon]

That's the thing. The parts are cheap and even if i get a pressure fluid flushing thing for around £50 the cost is a lot less than a mechanic doing the job. Ive been watching a few you(can think you can do it)tube videos and they range from nice and easy but on a nice clean practically new car all lifted up in a smart garage to bodger crawling around in the street who might as well be using glue and sticky tape.

I dont think the ABS system would be that challenged as its a simple standard system not some fancy BMW thing which needs reprogramming or some such.

[Nobby the Bastard]

Depends on the hard pipe. If it's just on the rear subframe you may be able to buy them. Typically, though, mechanics make up hard lines to suit beccause they need replacement so rarely.
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[Ribenapigeon]

I was thinking of buying some pipe and fittings and a flaring tool to haya go at making up my own. Would be interesting just from a fettling skill point of view.

[Tierbirdy]

Oh boy...

Well I just paid £1100-ish for a total replacement of my brake lines & hoses. That was cripplingly painful. About £8-900 of that was labor. Admittedly that was a local independent BMW specialist rather than generic garage, could have possibly gotten it done cheaper. Their labor rate is about £80 an hour I think.

BMW 1 series, advisory for corroded pipes, previous owner fucking hammerited over said corroded pipes so when I went to undo one of the hoses to replace them with nicer braided HEL ones, it just sheared off.

That was for all 4 hard lines all the way from the ABS pump to each caliper, and fitting the HEL hoses I provided. Garage said they could form their own copper lines if I wanted, or I could wait an extra 2 days to get steel OEM ones shipped from BMW Germany and the price would be more or less the same, and apparently steel ones are better? No idea why, but as I wasnt in a rush I opted for the OEM ones.

I initially thought about having a go at it myself, however by the time Id bought all the required tools, that Id likely never use again, I thought it wouldnt be worth it. Then I got the quote from the garage and thought "fuck that Ill have a go myself." Then I looked up how to do it and how much aggro it would be (BMW in their infinite wisdom run the brake lines ontop of the fuel lines, so step 1 is "drain and remove the entire fuel system" which I didnt fancy trying to do on my back up on axle stands), and got the garage to do it.

[MCN]

Brake Pipes I used to fit loads of that stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_tube?wprov=sfla1

Bundi Tubing. Kunt of a thing to work with.
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[Ribenapigeon]

[Ribenapigeon]

[Easy-X]

Oh, this is for the Agila? I doubt it'd be complicated then. Have you visually inspected the hard lines yourself? I'd be interested in a photo if you do think they'd dodgy.

Anyhoo, just buy all the stuff and lego-brick it. There's no point in getting fancy and making stuff yourself unless you think you can improve on the factory work or just fancy the entertainment. On a bike you're just making up short runs and don't even need a lift so have at it. On a car I'm assuming trolley jack and axel stands so fun is way down on the list.

At least the weather's nice
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[Nobby the Bastard]

You do know they are examined for mots? Anything that looks like a nick, a kink or corrosion is a fail.

Fucking logo brick them....
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[Ribenapigeon]

The advisory on the MOT is; Brake pipe corroded, covered in grease or other material (all pipes) [1.1.11(c)]

I can't get a good look as yet because I'll need to take it to someone else who has a driveway and trolly jack. I might stick a camera on a stick and have a look that way.

[Easy-X]

[MCN]

[Ribenapigeon]

[grr666]

[Robby]

I agree. Try cleaning them first. They really shouldn't be corroded yet.

If you are going to replace them yourself, get plenty of fittings and do some practice runs first to make decent connections. It's the kind of thing you really don't want to fuck up.

[Ribenapigeon]

[Ribenapigeon]

I've just done a little research and found that brakes operate at up to around 2000psi ! Which is a rather sobering thought.

[Ayrton]

This was maybe 4 years ago but I paid just under £400 to have new brake pipes fitted to my Swift.
I wouldn't have wanted to do it myself, even the mechanic said he struggled with it since everything else on it is going to be corroded. Seems like the kind of job you want a car lift for.

[Easy-X]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Braided lines for an entire car would be prohibitively expensive.

Thats why they use hard lines for OEM.
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[Easy-X]

[Ribenapigeon]

[WD Forte]

I've made them up in the past and it wasn't too bad but this was for a van where the access was much easier then crawling under a car.

Apart from buying the pipe/fittings/flaring tool etc
A trolley jack and axle stands or blocks to get it as high as possible
with the wheels off would make the job so much less of a hassle
and allow you to get a disc cutter in there to remove the old fittings
rather than fart about struggling for ages with rusty rounded off stuff.

A pipe bending tool would be very useful for creating any complex curves without kinking the pipe

A quick butchers on Ebay gives this
can't attest to the quality but I like the price

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234632934771?
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