Demographic Collapse

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So there's this fella, Steven Shaw, who's been doing the rounds. Apparently his background is something like "hey, we're Volkswagen! Here's a shed-load of money to tell us what the kids will be buying in the next decade." long term business forecasting type stuff. Incidental to his work he noticed the population stats for the likes of Germany and Japan... tl;dr not good

AFAIK the numbers he's jabbing a finger at are not in dispute. Germany, Italy and Japan dipped below the 2.0 kids replacement number in the '70s and every other Western country is following the trend. Worse: every other country on the entire planet is trending in the same direction, even in Africa. Everyone... everywhere... just maybe not all at once.

A few questions arise: why is this not important? As in why is MSM pointedly ignoring the topic. You could take the alternative view that the numbers are all total bollocks but then the MSM do have a penchant for debunking "misinformation"

Why is discussing the topic deemed problematic? According to certain Cambridge students (where Mr. Shaw was to do a talk) such a topic is Transphobic?! Errrr..... anyway he got "cancelled" and had to talk to students covertly? Ummm, I dunno this Shaw fella but that seems a bit of a stretch. He does have a docu-film and future book to punt after all.

Finally, and this is not discussed in the typical promo interviews he's been doing, what does demographic collapse even look like? Nothing dramatic like Nuclear Holocaust or meteor strike, does the Human Race just fade out 'cos we just couldn't be bothered with it all?

If today you have a million OAPs but only 100,000 kids (speaking in generational terms) what does that even mean? "Nothing good" seems obvious but...

Given technological advancements it's not completely mad to conceive in a generation or two we might manage effective immortality. It might be that your kids (or grandkids in my case) are at the same time some of of the last to be born and yet the perpetual custodians of this planet
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[mentalboy]

MSM were all over it several years ago here in the US. Aging populations might be an issue but considering that, apparently, we're all slowly cookingand turning our planet into a trash dump do we really want to encourage gen Z to go out and breed - FFS, they're moaning about being burnt out in their 20's before they sprog up, imagine the whining in 10 years time when they decide to put their careers aside and breed...
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[Easy-X]

We gave it a go but we weren't up to the task? Seems an ignominious end
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[Ste]

Link?

We've got a very limited time frame to discuss things before Nobby and Dave arrive and start throwing shit around.

[to v or not to v]

dont panic, there are plenty of boat invaders rushing in to fill the gap.
theyre all budding doctors and and engineers and will pay our pensions.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Breeding rates in this country will be suppressed by this sort of attitude.

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[grr666]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Actually the benefit system does take into account Muslim family and second, third and fourth wives are recognised as an adult dependant a.d all the children of all 4 wives are therefore in scope for the one benefit claim.

After some further checking there is no exemption for the 2 child limit for the household for polygamous marriges from juristictions that allow these and the benefit legislation states that these such marriages are considered a single household, only the first two children from a polygamous marriage will be paid for unless some other exemption is in play.
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[grr666]

So I marry wife 1, then tell the DSS we're no longer together because I said "I divorce you" three times. Rinse and
repeat to the maximum of 4 claims for four 'ex' wives, 4 council houses, 4 right to buy 3 year qualification periods
running concurrently and let's not forget about the limit free disability benefits available to pay for the results of
the rampant cousinfucking that we all know goes on but nobody wants to confront. This is paid separately from any
family allowance payments as I'm sure you know. Then there's the subsidised motability vehicles to ferry said
spazzy kids about and work as a minicab the rest of the time, free taxis to take them to school and hospital,
free aids and adaptations to houses which include sizeable ground floor extensions (obviously before the money
appears like magic after 3 years as a council tenant to buy the place once it's all been done up by the taxpayer.)
And grants for everything from school uniform to utility bills. There's more than one way to rinse a kuffar for gibs.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

You cannot marry and divorce under sharia rules only in the uk so that scenario is the finest bollocks available.

To be honest this is no different to what Boris has repeated done.
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[Ste]

[Ste]

[Nobby the Bastard]

[Rob Fzs]

Plenty of kids bred in Africa that are only a plane trip away, saves the NHS birthing them
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[Ste]

[Nobby the Bastard]

[stinkwheel]

It's an economic problem. In every other way fewer people on earth is a good thing.
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[that_impulse_guy]

I remember being taught in geography in the late 80's that Germany was the only country with ZPG...zero population growth..so its not such a new thing.

so here's the thing...define a money system where borrowed money has to be paid back with interest...which magically appears out of thin air...an infinite money system based on GDP and all that bollocks.

then look around at your planet, a finite thing, with finite size and resources...and explain how these two are compatible.

"We" NEED population growth to sustain the infinite money system, otherwise decades of Bretton Woods theory goes pop. In every country, everywhere, it has been noted that birth rates decline in relation to the female education level. Teach people that they're not just there to make babies, and they'll stop making babies. And then the bankers and politicians shit themselves because without an ever expanding population the monetary system goes pop.

I havent mentioned immigration, because it is independent of the above which stands on its own merits. However, factually, its cheaper to import an adult than to grow one yourself. If this adult was taught to a good level elsewhere, its very cheap (compared).

If the adult is not educated, its still cheaper to train them that to start with a zero year baby. Just not by much...but if the natives arent fucking then whats your options.
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[that_impulse_guy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE
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[stinkwheel]

Ok. How can we have both a housing shortage AND an under-population problem. It's not like the number of houses is going down.
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