IAM or RoSPA?

[TravisBickle]

My son and I are looking to do IAM or RoSPA (maybe both, in time).

Undecided which one to go for / start with first.

Is one considered superior to the other?

Is one considered harder / more advanced than the other?

IAM have a price of £175 advertised online, can't seem to find a price for RoSPA, anyone know what it is?

Is one more widely recognised by insurance companies than the other?

Are there any other courses, other than these two, that I have overlooked?

Anything else I should know / what to expect / advice / tips? All input welcome / general chat about advanced rider training.
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[stinkwheel]

Local IAM groups seem more active and available, both in terms of course delivery and social activity. If you're into that kind of thing.
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[WD Forte]

I'd start with getting a POLITE hi viz tabard first.
I believe they come in a range of attractive colours too

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[MCN]

Read the Police Riders handbook before you lay out coffee and petrol money for some bearded, carpet loafer sporting fkwit to criticise your riding.

Motorcycle Roadcraft - the Police Riders Handbook: The Police Riders Handbook (Police Foundation)
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[davebike]

As a current IAM group (LAM London)member and former observer Yes Roadcraft (police RIDERS version) is a good start but surprisingly highway code and roads signs book are also a good pre ride read
Yellow jacket fine but don't consider the polite version that for tarts not riders
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[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

[MCN]

It is possible and highly regular, to go through life without joining a club.

If you have difficulty making friends, then perhaps joining a self-help activist group such as IAM or ROSPA may be something to try.

There's also online dating to try.

And, apparently, there are lots of 'Ugly women who like secks' out there too.
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[Fat Angry Scotsman]

[TravisBickle]

Ok a lot of useful information given here and pointing strongly towards IAM.

I'll look there first and see how we get on.

Thanks to everyone who contributed.

[MCN]

[Freddyfruitba...]

[TravisBickle]

Well for me it's mostly about insurance discount (and bragging rights).

Also wouldn't mind volunteering for the Blood Bikes at some point in the future when things quieten down at work.

I take the point about keeping the skill levels up every 3 years on RoSPA but I think you'd retain most of the information you learn on these courses over the years, even if you fall out of the habit of using it daily. So it's more on the rider to keep those skills in practice and good habits in place rather than having to go back every 3 years and 're-learn' everything you already know.
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[TravisBickle]

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[stinkwheel]

[TravisBickle]

[om15]

I carried out the IAM refresher training and advanced rider test five years ago, it sharpened me up a bit, I had been riding for about 45 years, had never recieved any training, just wobbled round a test and managed to stop without falling off to get my licence decades ago.
It improved my positioning, distances and observations, so that was ok, the actual local organisation was all rather condescending and not really my cup of tea.

You will get benefit from the training, get a bit of paper for your insurance and be a safer rider, so good luck whatever you do.
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[Tierbirdy]

Not that I would at all advocate telling fibs to insurers to get cheaper premiums, when the ripoff merchant bastards fleece you at every opportunity... but Ive been putting that Im IAM qualified on my insurance every year for the past decade or so, and never once been asked for proof of this.

I technically am, my blue light training grants me IAM membership without needing to do any assessment rides/tests. Just send them a copy of my qualification and cough up the membership fees. Which Ive not done because theres no point.

Do with that information as you will.

[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

and what sort of reduction do you get?
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