ULEZ Exemption for 1997 Yamaha XJ900

[jimster]

Hi all,

Another post on this topic (I googled but couldn't find something for my own bike) - I have a project 1997 Yamaha XJ900 which I hope to get running eventually! I'm just wondering if anyone else knows whether this bike is likely to be exempt from the London ULEZ charge if I get it tested and/or ask Yamaha for a certificate confirming the NOX emissions. Anyone else done this for this model bike? Thanks!!!
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Previous: Yamaha Diversion 600cc, Piaggio Zip 50cc, Honda CG125-W, Siamoto Caddy 50cc moped

[that_impulse_guy]

truth to told, a CoC is going to be probably non-existent..."maybe" for a 2001 bike...but for 1997 I dont believe anybody was testing, and certainly not for nox.

second truth be told: most bikes, especially ones with carbs, are just about MOAR POWER. i.e. they run rich, which inherently reduces nox levels to "pass".

I would be happy to say that a carb bike can be made compliant by most people, , and that a FI bike "could possibly" be made compliant with some software flashing, although its not even sure if cdi form that era will even be tunable.

you should be fine.

If youre near london essex way, then unit5 in Romford can do tests now @£170
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[Bhud]

Don't even bother asking Yamaha - they will not have the data and won't be able to issue a certificate for that bike.

While it's likely it would pass the test, it's not a guarantee. In the worst case, the testing centre will recommend getting catalytic converters fitted, so that it passes. These can be expensive.

If you're going to travel in the affected area (which is large), then it's probably worthwhile getting it tested.

[MarJay]

Apparently most bikes can be made to pass... but whether it's worth £170 for a Diversion I can't say. My guess would be no, but your mileage may vary.
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[Fizzer Thou]

I applied to Yamaha UK for a CoC for my 2001 5JJ-R1 and initially they said that would be okay....£75 please.My credit card was charged and I waited....and waited.Eventually I contacted the importer by email,only to be advised that my bike was not able to be issued with a certificate as they had no testing data for emissions back that far.

I have received letters from tfl stating that not only would I have to pay £12.50 per day for my R1,but also my 1991 3XW-FJ1200 and my 1990 Exup1000 and 1997 XR400R.But if I was to take my bikes to any of the approved testing centres at Bow,Deptford or Stevenage,then they would do their utmost to get my bikes compliant.Yer right...at £175 a pop I am not about to do that.I heard that the place at Bow is a real rip-off as someone who owns a Honda Super Blackbird was charged some £800 to fit cats in the exhaust and then to retest a number of times before it would pass.

On the V5c form for my 2004 KTM 450EXC the Nox levels are stipulated and the bike is compliant,so the statement by tfl that vehicles older than 2007 would have to pay the £12.50 is total bollox.

I will be quite happy to SORN all of my non-compliant bikes until next year when sad-dik khant can be voted out of his present position.Hopefully there will be a massive turnout at the ballot box,otherwise there will be another four years of his repressive regime.
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[Easy-X]

[Nobby the Bastard]

[that_impulse_guy]

theres a place called unit5 in ..romford i think that now do ULEZ testing for £170 a pop too...they have leaflets...retest/s are free if you have a leaflet....go pick up some leaflets.

I have no idea how queued up these places must be for tests with this damn deadline looming large.

its depressing.
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[Skudd]

It isn't racism if it's a fact.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

[that_impulse_guy]

you can live 2miles thisaway or thataway in London and have a totally different lived experience of whether what was said was true or not..example Ilford central vs Wanstead.

I dont doubt some folks feel lost nowdays.

anyway, back to a happier topic...ULEZ.
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Now: Suzuki GSX400X, Suzuki RF900R, NS400R

[Bhud]

It's a confusing situation. Dare I say it, the UK is now a failing state, and the fault does not lie at the feet of foreigners.

By definition, London is a city in England, and is, therefore, an English city.

There are many things (perhaps even everything) I don't like about the way in which Britain has changed since the 80s/90s and today. However, no matter how much it changes in its demographic composition, London is the quintessential English city as it's the capital of England. Many other countries, it's important to note, have an improving standard of living and GDP. But not this one. Where does the blame lie, is this orchestrated on purpose, and are poor immigrants really as powerful as they are sometimes imagined to be? All these are questions which may have unpalatable answers.

The issue here is ULEZ, who is behind it and what can be done to assist OP. For sure, international politics (and big banks) are behind the policy. But what the OP needs is specific advice about what he can do to mitigate the effect of this downward correction in his standard of living. Will he be allowed to ride his Diversion without being bothered by this astonishing rate of change? Can this be preserved in some way?

[Easy-X]

LMAO "facts = racism"

And what are we supposed to do about that information, stop pointing it out?
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[MarJay]

London is ethnically diverse perhaps, but would you say that ALL the people of non white ethnic makeup are not English? If so, THAT is racist.
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[Ste]

[Easy-X]

[MarJay]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Even White British isn't really an ethnicity. The best you can really get to for ethnicity is North European white but even then you have to ignore the scandanavians.
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[Ste]

White British is an ethnic group and white English might depending on how you wish to interpret things.

White

• English, Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish or British
  
• Irish
  
• Gypsy or Irish Traveller
  
• Roma
  
• Any other White background

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/style-guide/ethnic-groups

[Nobby the Bastard]

[Ste]

I'm not suggesting anything but clearly anyone from Ireland to Russia isn't English or British regardless of how white they are.

[Easy-X]

[Bhud]

Are there any indigenous people in England?

That's an interesting question. I would say, no.

https://www.un.org/en/observances/indigenous-day

[Easy-X]

That sounds like a definition of "Indigenous" to suit political ends but hey-ho, can't rely on dictionaries anymore

I'm curious as to what the difference is/was between say Scottish and English people. Probably hardly anything these days, granted, but the history books seem to suggest physically, politically and culturally separate peoples for quite some time Still, next time someone says they can trace their lineage back to Robert the Bruce I can confidently spit back what it's a statement of zero worth and consequence, utterly devoid of meaning in a modern society. Nice
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[dn38416]

Nice little microcosm, this is exactly why I can't bring myself to show up to anti-ULEZ type protests even though i've been directly affected, because a small number of nutters make it about politics and race issues. Stupid fucking cunts.

And if you think the next mayor will abandon the infrastructure and walk away from a cash cow you're a fucking idiot. 'English' or not.