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jimster Spanner Monkey
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Posted: 17:50 - 26 Sep 2023 Post subject: Biker blamed 100% for this crash....fair? |
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This impressive crash (glad the biker survived without too much damage...) seems to have been entirely blamed on the biker.
Original youtube footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGOESS4DaRU&t=1s
BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-cambridgeshire-66929271
The bike is obviously going way too fast, ignoring the indicating car about to turn in front of him and riding without insurance etc., however I think the car is also considerably at fault for turning right in front of a fairly visible (and probably audible) oncoming bike travelling at high speed.
I think it's maybe 60/40 the responsibility of the biker so it'd be a bit unfair if the biker goes to jail with points etc. (and a missing toe!) and the car got off entirely scot free.
Anyone know if the car driver also got any points/fine for this? ____________________ Current: Yamaha Diversion XJ900
Previous: Yamaha Diversion 600cc, Piaggio Zip 50cc, Honda CG125-W, Siamoto Caddy 50cc moped
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Pete. Super Spammer
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Posted: 18:31 - 26 Sep 2023 Post subject: |
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Moron commenter claiming that bike was doing 50-odd. It was tanking along.
Let's face it - no license, no insurance, barelling along a semi-urban road having just passed a parade of shops and several residential closes, at 5pm - the guy deserved everything he got. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good |
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Serious crashes happen all the time on bikes (serious because the personal injury consequences can be very severe). He saw a line of cars and should have been prepared for one of them to cut across to enter the side road. This was a simple task: as simple as losing enough speed to let him hit the brakes and stop in time, or swerve out of the way. It was plain daylight. The driver may not have seen the bike - he was too close to the vehicle in front and the bike was coming the other way fast. He did indicate. Sure, he should have looked and made sure it was clear. Intelligence and fair risk calculations go hand in hand, and this incident was an everyday thing which was easily avoidable if the rider had lost a bit of speed in anticipation. This guy was deficient, with poor impulse control and forward planning:
https://www.cambs.police.uk/news/cambridgeshire/news/2023/august/womans-car-window-smashed-in-terrifying-ordeal/ |
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I might tear through Wandsworth at 60 40 the regulation 20mph but I assume every cunt and his mother is going to step out or cut across or do a surprise U-turn or stop suddenly... and so on. That's why I still have all my toes ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Driver took reasonable care, thus not an illegal act. It's not reasonable to expect a driver to wait until there was absolutely no chance of someone travelling at massively excessive speed to be coming.
Like I say, the bike wouldn't have become visible until the driver started to turn and the driver had reasonable vision into the distance from where they turned. The car in front wasn't blocking their view, the rider was being an utter twat.
As you can see, the car was almost out of the main carriageway and into the side road when it got hit.
https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/untitled_206.jpg ____________________ trevor saxe-coburg-gotha:"Remember this simple rule - scooters are for men who like to feel the breeze on their huge, flapping cunt lips."
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