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loply
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Best way to raise £1500ish for bike? Reply with quote

hi folks,

my test is coming up and i plan to buy a 500 for my first bike, till i want to get a sports bike,

my question is - whats the best way for me to raise £1500ish for the bike + some gear?

a loan of £1500 from HSBC comes with like £400 interest Shocked would i be well advised to buy on credit card?

i want to be paying £40-£50 a month in repayments, so 24 months ish.

whats the most sensible option?
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NickD
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stick it on the plastic, then keep tranferring the balance to the best deal you can. Get it right and you'll end up paying next to no interest. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most sensible option is to get your test and licence out of the way first, save up for a crappy bike, then work your way up.
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loply
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah our financial director at work does that, but being 20 and no-homeowner, and generally new at this stuff, i dont know if id be up to that game.
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loply
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey frostyone, it would take me a year or so to save up for a crappy bike, heck, itd take me a year or so to get out of overdraft so i could start saving!
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best way of raising money is employment, if you can wait I would be very tempted to wait until you have the money in your hand rather than from a loan. If you can't, then if you'll be able to pay it back quite quickly put it on your credit card and pay it back as soon as you can. Just find out the APR rates for loans and for credit cards and find out which will be the cheapest way of borrowing money for you.
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Frost
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spose i am still of the old fasioned school of thought: If you don't have enough money to buy it with some left over, dont buy it.
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ZRX61
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a job.... Rolling Eyes
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iCraig
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can easily get a 500cc bike for less than £1000, infact theres a 1989 GPZ500S on Autotrader for £700, and it has low miles too.

So £700 + a few hundred for gear. Smile
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Ste
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember to budget for insurance, and your bike will need money spending on it to feed it oil, brake pads, oil filters, petrol, tyres, air filters, and any other parts which wear out (or break).

£400 insterest on £1500 is about 28% APR, I think they're trying to tell you something; it's not a good idea.
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
I spose i am still of the old fasioned school of thought: If you don't have enough money to buy it with some left over, dont buy it.

Same here.

How hard is your job? You could always get something part time to help you get some more dosh. Yes, this would leave you with no free time, but if you can slog it out for a month or two, then you'll have enough cash for the bike. Now is a good time to get a weekend job, with Christmas( Evil or Very Mad ) aproaching.
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

debt is the worst form of poverty

save up, then buy a bike
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bank of Mum+Dad. This is what I am doing with my car (bearing in mind I am 26 and in full time employment) for reasons of simplicity I want to keep the company car expenses seperate from my pay.

My parents actually suggested it, they gave me a 6 grand loan at 6%apr. This is cheaper than you would get from the bank so I am well enough pleased and it is good from my parents point of view because it is more than they would be getting from their savings account. They see it as a kind of short-term (2 year), tied investment.

Good old mum and dad.
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe it saving up for a few months/years then buying it. That is it then, you don't need to pay anyone back and will enjoy it more because you've paid for it.
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

DO NOT put it on a credit card! If you have a bank account go to them and see about a loan with a low APR. Also look online - finance companies are falling over themselves to lend money. You should be looking for a loan with an APR of between 7 - 10%, however it may be higher for you as I guess you are not a homeowner and therefore more risk. You should also go to a dealership as occasionally they have special finance deals.

Credit card companies will charge you between 14% - 22% interest, also they will increase your spending limit so that you put all the accessories on too! You'll end up paying through the nose!
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

buy a crap one first then save up for a good one.

If you are technically minded enough go to your local scrap yard. Finding a ruinning bike isnt usually difficult, it'll cost next to nothing but will need you to put the time in to get it road worthy.

My GS125 for learning on cost £50 from the local scrap yard and about £150 to get on the road, excellent!

Im currently on the search again for a 350-ish thing, or a classic 500 (no laughing please) to do the same again.

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PostPosted: 17:45 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

That interest rate is horredous. You should be able to get a loan for that amount with a far lower interest rate.

All the best

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stryker
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

The RAC do small loans with just 6% interest. Is that better.
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bear in mind pretty much all loan companies shout about doing loans from ~6% APR. What they don't shout so loud is subject to terms and conditions, unless you've got a perfect credit record you'll pay more APR than that. But 28% is daft, you shouldn't need to pay more than about 15% APR really.
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ZRX61
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PostPosted: 01:07 - 03 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

headlamp wrote:
Credit card companies will charge you between 14% - 22% interest,

You're with the wrong CC company, 2 of mine charge 0% & the other charges 3.9%....
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PostPosted: 01:38 - 03 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok having just taken a loan out to pay for my old bike and buy a new one i think i am ok to say that virgin loans are very cheap

i pay 6.5% apr which breaks down like this

£2500

£167.73 interest

£2667.73 total amount repayable over 2 years

£111.15 per month (24 months)

HSBC charge silly amounts of money

go onto autotrader and log onto the finance center and see who is offering the best loans!
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PostPosted: 01:50 - 03 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

What APR you're paying is only really useful to know when looking for loans if they're with your age and your general view of your credit record (have you had any loans paid back sucessfully before, any credit cards, any charges for unauthorised borrowing etc) as the same company will give different people different APR rates dependant on their credit record.
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PostPosted: 02:24 - 03 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

im 19 with next to no credit record
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 03 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only got credit on my first bike because they offered me 0% so i had the money earning me interest while I wasn’t paying any on the bike loan.
I saved up and got myself the better bigger bike. I wouldn’t get a loan for the bike cus I saw that over 3 years of paying interest on a cheep bike the payments would have easily bought and insured a much better bike. Just think about your finances, a friend managed to buy a car by putting the money she would normally spend of cigarettes into a pot, took a little over 18months!
If you can’t afford to buy a bike can you really afford the repayments on the loan?
There is also a huge satisfaction in buying a bike with your money that you have earned and saved. When i rode away from the garage on my new bike i knew it was mine!
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(The opinions expressed in this post are those of the individual and not the Jay12329 Corporation as a hole.)
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