Tata steel

[Polarbear]

My question, Is it worth bribing foreign companies to invest in the UK if they can just give us the finger when it suits them.

Better kick them out, 3000 jobs lost must have been cheaper thsn 500, 000, 000. and now on thedole.
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[stinkwheel]

So presumably you would prefer them to keep the old, polluting furnaces?
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[DaddyStu]

The ability to make steel should be protected. Not sure how many sites still can - maybe Scunthorpe? Even if its just 1 day a week with option to scale up in times of national emergency.

This new electric furnace they're installing can only reforge scrap steel.
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[stinkwheel]

No point having an emergency domestic steel production if you have no coking coal and I'm pretty sure they blocked that venture.
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[RhynoCZ]

Unless you control all the input materials, it makes little to no sense to produce something that anyone can these days.

Sure, it still makes a strategic sense to be able to produce steel (*weapons and transportation), but people are no longer willing to accept the higher cost of domestic production and the associated pollution. They just want to pull all the pollution outside the environment. * https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM?si=n6hd4U7wyAs3YpnN&t=87

I mean, I live in a region built on coal mining and steel production. Some of the best quality coal (coking coal) on the planet, still a plenty of it in the ground, yet the coal mining business is on the way out because it makes no economic sense these days. It is far more affordable for the local steel industry to buy coal from Australia and Canada. Sure, we are all mates now, and they will supply us with coal as long as we pay them, but what happens when the shipment gets interrupted? As for electric forges, DaddyStu is right, you can't produce high quality steel without coal. Even if you could, the energy industry in Europe is a crooked place. I mean, Czech republic is one of the biggest electricity exporter, 5th on the planet or so, yet the electricity on the domestic market is one of the most expensive, incl. the electricity for the busineses who that bankrupt left and right these days.

TL; DR: It does make sense to be able to produce steel. You can't explain the added cost and pollution to the public.
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[Easy-X]

It's no better for the planet overall if steel is produced locally rather than abroad. Maybe local is better as pollution will be kept to a minimum?

If you're worried about security - that the country making the steel will fuck you over - there is the option of stockpiling. AFAIK a warehouse full of steel has less environmental impact than a furnace
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[RhynoCZ]

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[RhynoCZ]

I do agree, that some people stockpile stuff all the time. I also do agree that military must stockpile stuff all the time... we even keep emergency reserves of oil, IIRC in the EU the member states shall keep at least 90 days worth reserve.

So, if you make it mandatory, that 1% of the GDP or even more goes towards emergency steel reserve, then sure. I do agree, that strategic industries should be protected, but how would you explain that to the taxpayers, when many of them still believe in importing everything is the way forward. Especially in the UK, the British ''heat or eat'' videos fill even my YouTube.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Meh, there's plenty of quality steel in scapa flow if we suddenly find we can't get any on the open market.
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