Tiger 1050 ignition switched supply for phone charger

[TravisBickle]

My son has a 2016 Tiger 1050 Sport.

He's got a wireless Quadlock charger on his handlebars but it's draining the battery.

I've had a look under the seat, there are some fuses that would be suitable to tap into (that are off when the ignition is off and power up when the ignition it turned on) but I don't really want to piggy back the fuse itself and the fuse holders themselves don't look like they have enough wire underneath to be comfortably pulled up and to one side while I solder a nice neat heatshrunk connection behind the fuse holder.

Looks a bit agro to do a nice tidy weatherproof job.

I refuse to use scotch locks and I'm reluctant to use a piggyback fuse in the fuse socket itself.

Am I missing something?

Is there an easier location to get ignition switched power from?
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2024 BMW M1000XR
2021 Honda CMX500 Rebel S
2016 Triumph Tiger 1050 Sport

[stinkwheel]

Rear brake switch. Has a switched live feed, is an easily replaceable part, is easy to run wiring to under the seat and is a redundant system. I generally just cut the live on the switched side and re-join it with a couple of bullet connectors with the extra wire in one of them but if you are feeling particularly fancy, you could wiggle the connector out of the block on the switch side, apply a new crimp with two wires in and click it back in.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Front headlight, it's on when the ignition is on.

Edit: According to my wiring diagram there is a connector for some heated grips and also two connectors in the topbox but for the life of me I can't work out if they are switched. The heated grip connector on my sprint is so presumably the Tiger is as well.
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Triumph Sprint ST 1050

[jeffyjeff]

[TravisBickle]

Still not got round to doing it.

I remember seeing advertised on some heated grips "smart voltage technology" or something that means they can be connected directly to the battery but when the voltage drops below say 12 volts (when the engine is off) they turn off to avoid draining the battery.

Is there some sort of accessory power unit out there that provides a similar function for other accessories?

I've looked but can't find one.
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2024 BMW M1000XR
2021 Honda CMX500 Rebel S
2016 Triumph Tiger 1050 Sport

[Nobby the Bastard]

Judging by the fact the wiring diagram for the heated grips socket has 3 wires it's the same as mine. 1 permanant live, one switched and an earth so you can just chuck in a relay on the permanant live thats triggered by the switched live.
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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha:"Remember this simple rule - scooters are for men who like to feel the breeze on their huge, flapping cunt lips."
Triumph Sprint ST 1050

[A100man]

[TravisBickle]

Thanks for the input guys.

I ordered one of these in the end:

https://healtech.co.uk/shop/thunderbox-tb-power-distribution-module/

Yes it's more expensive than tapping into an ignition switched wire somewhere on the bike, but it's far less and faff and represents an investment as it can very quickly and easily be removed and put on the next bike when that time comes.

I appreciate the time taken to lend your advice!
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2024 BMW M1000XR
2021 Honda CMX500 Rebel S
2016 Triumph Tiger 1050 Sport

[Nobby the Bastard]

Talk about throwing money at a problem that doesn't actually exist...
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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha:"Remember this simple rule - scooters are for men who like to feel the breeze on their huge, flapping cunt lips."
Triumph Sprint ST 1050

[TravisBickle]

On this bike, yeah maybe, got to be honest I never looked for the heated grips connector as you suggested, could have been equally faffless.

And the rear brake switch that stinkwheel suggested, while I'm sure is dead easy and straightforward, just sounded like running an extra unwanted cable from the back of the bike..

Either way adding relays etc. does just add a bit of extra unwanted junk and wiring and mess.

Like I said this can be transferred to other bikes so for £65, I'm ok with that for the simplicity and gives and not having to tamper or cut into existing electrics.
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2024 BMW M1000XR
2021 Honda CMX500 Rebel S
2016 Triumph Tiger 1050 Sport

[jeffyjeff]

[TravisBickle]

Fair point.

There is a scotch lock provided with the Thunderbox but that's intended for the optional white wire that you can connect, if you choose, to an ignition switched live so it acts like a relay instead of going off the voltage.

I won't be using any scotch locks or crimp connectors. They are ok on the inside of cars but not on a bike in my opinion, I find they corrode quite quickly. Everything will be soldered and heatshrunk.
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2024 BMW M1000XR
2021 Honda CMX500 Rebel S
2016 Triumph Tiger 1050 Sport

[jeffyjeff]

[TravisBickle]

Yeah I take that back about the scotch locks, I never use them, even on the inside of a car. Used to, but learned the hard way. Will use crimp connectors on the inside of cars. At the end of the day even crimp connectors have to be used externally on battery rings so they've got to be used sometimes, I just prefer to always solder where possible.
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2024 BMW M1000XR
2021 Honda CMX500 Rebel S
2016 Triumph Tiger 1050 Sport

[A100man]

[TravisBickle]

Reminds me of a Mitsubishi Space Wagon I had many moons ago (which I bought off my best mate's dad):

https://live.staticflickr.com/3898/14453312165_dc6c1270a5_b.jpg
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2024 BMW M1000XR
2021 Honda CMX500 Rebel S
2016 Triumph Tiger 1050 Sport

[jeffyjeff]