The Slow Invasion

[MCN]

Weather is the controlling factor on how many Illegals arrive on UK shores.


https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats-last-7-days

Choppy Seas keep them on the French side of the channel


Plus, The RNLI are permitted to return them to France but the RNLI refuse to 'repatriate' to France.

I've not put a penny in an RNLI box since they adopted theor policy of enablement.
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[thx1138]

There is a huge list of problems and complications involced for RNLI to get them back on to dry land in France.

Each boat, generally returns to where it is launched from, where there is a shore crew ready to help, where they know the waters, and know they can easily get passengers to disembark, and they are in English waters with radio cover from coastguard, French fishermen will chat on marine band zero.......

If they go to France and back, they likely do not have enought fuel, certainly not on the inshore boats, and each station runs independtly of one one another more or less, so Brighton lifeboat, for example, likely would not have the fuel to get to France and back on a shout, and Newhaven or Shoreham are not going to launch their boat to transfer rescued people, to take back over to France.

If they spent time buggering about ferrying people back and forth across the channel, they would effectively put themsevles out of service for hours on end.

Often the fuel is donated, Texaco wouldn't be pleased if there was 1000% rise in cost of fuel donation.

Even if the little inshore lifeboats had the fuel to make it back and forth across the channel, they are not rated beyond a certain distance from shore, or above a certain storm force rating.

When they get near the shore of France, they don't know the coastline, they have no local knowledge of the hazards in the shallows, the little boats don't have the range, the big boats would have to break out the zodiacs and go back and forth mutliple times, and I doubt the French would cooperate

source: I used to be a an RNLI crewman

[Islander]

Why would a volunteer service supported entirely by public contribution and set up with the sole intention of rescuing anyone in trouble at sea and saving lives be concerned with the political machinations of immigration?

It's not what the RNLI is set up for and it's not their business. It's entirely unreasonable to expect them to be involved.

[Polarbear]

[Easy-X]

Unfortunately you start getting into the same murky waters (pun intended) as barring fat people or smokers from the NHS. "Broken your leg playing football? Self inflicted, get to the back of the line."

About the only choice the RNLI have is to choose not to rescue people which would require testicular fortitude and a pretty extreme political stance.

Much better if the Royal Navy sunk them all before they got in range of the RNLI
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[Polarbear]

Oh I totally agree, the RNLI hasn't got any choice but to rescue them when they are called upon to do so. Doesn't mean people have to agree with it though.
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[that_impulse_guy]

theres loads of arguments about this and to be upfront my default stance is that this makes me unhappy.

When theyre on the french side, theyre people out on a day trip in a boat, apparently, so the french cant intervene, they say.

when they get to our side, we take it upon ourselves to decide that this boat of happy dayfarers which has reliably made it more than halfway across the channel cant possibly make it the last bit, and needs "rescuing". (that was...originally...I'm aware they puncture the things now and do an SOS which leaves us up a creek without a paddle).

(this conversation context is from an immigrant who had a really shit time of it getting into the country legally via visas 20years ago and so on prior to getting on a aeroplane and now massively pissed off to find out i coulda just rowed from france and saved myself a lot of bother)
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[Ayrton]

Cant really blame the RNLI, they just want to make sure everyone gets to land safely. I blame the French government for letting them set off in the first place.

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[MCN]

I know why we need the RNLI. It's a fact that the service is being g abused by invaders. It is psychotic to bring them ashore at the expense of British citizen's good will.
I would hope that RNLI are 100% compensated for their outlay in ferrying invaders to UK ports.

What I am saying, is that stopping the boats ain't working.

Our volunteer marine rescue service should not be exploited by invader travel gangs.
Having invaders cross in rubber dinghies and other shite is soaking up RNLI efforts.

If they ferry them back to French shores, it's another deterrent to invaders using the channel to access our lands.

It's would be more cost-effective for the tax payers to lifeboat them back than having the costs of housing, feeding and legal representation. (At tax payer's cost.)

Just sayin'.

I know ah'm right on all of this.

Sorry.
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[MCN]

There's no requirement to carry I.D. in the UK.

That is a loop hole that invaders exploit.

Even though most adults have a form of I.D.
Drivers licence and cetera.

A spot check would verify a person's identity.

They spot checks would be similar to a wartime status.

As soon as ID cards become mandatory, we would effectively be at war with an enemy.

I think thenwar started in 1945. When we handed back all our weapons.

(Some words were twisted to fit my agenda in the above statement.)
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[Polarbear]

Being someone who had to carry a seamans ID card (or passport) for the whole of my working life I honestly can't see why people get so hung up on ID cards. I've never had a problem although to be fair I don't think I have ever worked in a country other than UK that doesn't have ID cards.
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[Ste]

[Easy-X]

Throw them all in camps without mobile phones (or landlines or WiFi) until such time as they can be shipped out (Rwanda, Iran, France, who cares.) Given how long it takes the government to do anything these days they'll be there a while. In the mean time report them all lost at sea. Without TikTok and Instagram none of the swashbucklers' friends over the Channel will be able to verify. After a few hundred have been "reported drowned" they'll soon get the idea. The press are in the pocket of the government so they won't say what's really going on and all that remains is to brand any human rights lawyers complaining they're not really dead as conspiracy theorists. Could probably do with some secluded area to keep them - a UK Guantanamo Bay if you will. I nominate the Isle of Wight. No one of any import lives there beyond the bassist for Level 42...

Or we could just stop handing out free shit
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[Polarbear]

[Easy-X]

"Zero Seats" is a campaign everyone can easily get behind for the next election. If the Conservatives aren't reduced to double digits we'll know the system's rigged and by rights they should be down single digits. Killed or badly maimed is the only language they'll understand otherwise it'll be "the results, while disappointing, really show we failed to get our message across"

tl;dr traitors are executed.

That's one half of the uniparty dealt with. What to do with Labour?

Obviously voting for them sends the message that they have a mandate for the next 10 years. The ideal situation would be some sizable opposition. The Libdems are proven liars and Reform are run by communists and everyone else is way too small

AFAIK if you spoil your ballot paper you still get counted as turning out to vote. Maybe just not voting? If almost all the next government got elected on less than 33% turnout (i.e. 15% of the electorate actually voted for them) what would that say?
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Reform are communists? What fucking parallel universe are you living in?
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[Islander]

[Ste]

[Islander]

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[Bhud]

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[Nobby the Bastard]

You do live in a strange version of reality don't you?
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