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 Posted: 14:51 - 22 May 2024 Post subject: the dreamy dream bike |
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cmon, lets do this. I've waited nearly 30 years to kick one of these things again
https://i.imgur.com/zoIFRcZ.jpeg
new to me, hasnt run since last century...here we go.... ____________________ Gone: Yamaha DT50lc, Suzuki DR500, Suzuki A100, Kawasaki z250ltd, RD350YPVS, Suzuki DR Big, Kawasaki AR125, Kawasaki KMX200, Suzuki GS1000S, Katana 1100, GS550M, Suzuki RGV250
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would love to have a ride when its done  ____________________ current bike Yamaha Thunderace.
its old and fat, but its a damned good ride. the bikes not bad either. |
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I'm absolutely serious about it. I've spent the better part of 2 years negotiating with the owner to get him to believe I;m going to fix it and not kill it.
I'm going to fix it.
I have all the fairing bits..theyre all tatty, but present ____________________ Gone: Yamaha DT50lc, Suzuki DR500, Suzuki A100, Kawasaki z250ltd, RD350YPVS, Suzuki DR Big, Kawasaki AR125, Kawasaki KMX200, Suzuki GS1000S, Katana 1100, GS550M, Suzuki RGV250
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Here is a concise list of things that work on the NS400 as it stands:
1) The hooter
2) Indicator relay
Here is a list of all the things that arent working
1) fairings---top cracked, bits missing, lowers missing tabs, scratched...sidecovers scratched, missing tabs
2) forks: dust covers dissolved, circlips stuck, weird goop...stanchions rusted, TRAC seized up. Bolts missing for both calipers...
3) brakes: front master road-rashed into a leak, rear master stuck and doesnt move, broken brake pedal, brake light spring missing, all 3 calipers seized, rusted, brake pads delaminated, discs rusted...would'nt trust the hoses either m'lord
4) engine: coolant hoses shrunk, cracked, hardened...stopleak evident in radiator. reed valve intake rubbers cracked, oil pump cable seized
5) exhausts: #2 cylinder exhaust cracked at silencer, all 3 silencers road rash, About 1 liter of water in each silencer when removed. Broken exhaust stud on ATAC.
6) ATAC seized...not sure if solenoid, or arms, or both.
7) spark plugs caps seized onto all sparkplugs, HT leads look like junk.
8) carbs throttle didnt move, unsiezed that now all slides work ok. carb choke rod was seized into carb#1 body. Unseized that now choke works.
9) RHS mirror glass broken
10) all indicators either not there or broken arms.
11) headlight glass got a small hole in it. (innit...)
12) petrol tanks dings and missing paint
13) obviously chain and sprockets arent usable much.
14) hoses (petrol, vacuum, 2stroke oil...) not trusted much.
15) seat seems to have a small faghole burn in it.
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Money pit....nah!!! (cough cough)
just to add, I think this bike is testing me...everything...every little thing...doesnt want to play ball. If its a bolt, its stuck, if its a screw, its rusted. Ifs its a cable, its stuck and rusted...etc... ____________________ Gone: Yamaha DT50lc, Suzuki DR500, Suzuki A100, Kawasaki z250ltd, RD350YPVS, Suzuki DR Big, Kawasaki AR125, Kawasaki KMX200, Suzuki GS1000S, Katana 1100, GS550M, Suzuki RGV250
Now: Suzuki GSX400X, Suzuki RF900R, NS400R |
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that_impulse_guy wrote: | Here is a concise list of things that work on the NS400 as it stands:
1) The hooter
2) Indicator relay
Here is a list of all the things that arent working
1) fairings---top cracked, bits missing, lowers missing tabs, scratched...sidecovers scratched, missing tabs
2) forks: dust covers dissolved, circlips stuck, weird goop...stanchions rusted, TRAC seized up. Bolts missing for both calipers...
3) brakes: front master road-rashed into a leak, rear master stuck and doesnt move, broken brake pedal, brake light spring missing, all 3 calipers seized, rusted, brake pads delaminated, discs rusted...would'nt trust the hoses either m'lord
4) engine: coolant hoses shrunk, cracked, hardened...stopleak evident in radiator. reed valve intake rubbers cracked, oil pump cable seized
5) exhausts: #2 cylinder exhaust cracked at silencer, all 3 silencers road rash, About 1 liter of water in each silencer when removed. Broken exhaust stud on ATAC.
6) ATAC seized...not sure if solenoid, or arms, or both.
7) spark plugs caps seized onto all sparkplugs, HT leads look like junk.
8) carbs throttle didnt move, unsiezed that now all slides work ok. carb choke rod was seized into carb#1 body. Unseized that now choke works.
9) RHS mirror glass broken
10) all indicators either not there or broken arms.
11) headlight glass got a small hole in it. (innit...)
12) petrol tanks dings and missing paint
13) obviously chain and sprockets arent usable much.
14) hoses (petrol, vacuum, 2stroke oil...) not trusted much.
15) seat seems to have a small faghole burn in it.
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Money pit....nah!!! (cough cough)
just to add, I think this bike is testing me...everything...every little thing...doesnt want to play ball. If its a bolt, its stuck, if its a screw, its rusted. Ifs its a cable, its stuck and rusted...etc... |
It also looks rather squashed - but that could be just my display  ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600 |
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A100man wrote: | that_impulse_guy wrote: | Here is a concise list of things that work on the NS400 as it stands:
1) The hooter
2) Indicator relay
Here is a list of all the things that arent working
1) fairings---top cracked, bits missing, lowers missing tabs, scratched...sidecovers scratched, missing tabs
2) forks: dust covers dissolved, circlips stuck, weird goop...stanchions rusted, TRAC seized up. Bolts missing for both calipers...
3) brakes: front master road-rashed into a leak, rear master stuck and doesnt move, broken brake pedal, brake light spring missing, all 3 calipers seized, rusted, brake pads delaminated, discs rusted...would'nt trust the hoses either m'lord
4) engine: coolant hoses shrunk, cracked, hardened...stopleak evident in radiator. reed valve intake rubbers cracked, oil pump cable seized
5) exhausts: #2 cylinder exhaust cracked at silencer, all 3 silencers road rash, About 1 liter of water in each silencer when removed. Broken exhaust stud on ATAC.
6) ATAC seized...not sure if solenoid, or arms, or both.
7) spark plugs caps seized onto all sparkplugs, HT leads look like junk.
8) carbs throttle didnt move, unsiezed that now all slides work ok. carb choke rod was seized into carb#1 body. Unseized that now choke works.
9) RHS mirror glass broken
10) all indicators either not there or broken arms.
11) headlight glass got a small hole in it. (innit...)
12) petrol tanks dings and missing paint
13) obviously chain and sprockets arent usable much.
14) hoses (petrol, vacuum, 2stroke oil...) not trusted much.
15) seat seems to have a small faghole burn in it.
.....
Money pit....nah!!! (cough cough)
just to add, I think this bike is testing me...everything...every little thing...doesnt want to play ball. If its a bolt, its stuck, if its a screw, its rusted. Ifs its a cable, its stuck and rusted...etc... |
It also looks rather squashed - but that could be just my display  |
May be telling you how to suck eggs but..
Welcome to the horrible world of restorations. What is not going to bite you on the arse now is just toying with you. It will get you later when you are feelling a bit happier.
Restoration bikes test your mettle. They will not bite you big time now because you will consign the lot to landfill. They give you shit in bitesized pieces that you can digest and carry on if you have any backbone at all. It certainly teaches dogged determination.
I do hope you do not have an internal budget in mind. Forget that. It is a labour of love. Hope to spend £100 on a system and it will cost £400.
Hunting down long discontinued parts actually takes as many hours as twirling spanners.
It is a strangely addictive passtime. Like drugs or alcohol, you cannot ever redeem the money spent, but you know you have lived your life profitably....and brought something rather beautiful back into the world.
Remember. It is not a race to get it finished. Set yourself time limits of a couple of hours at a time and after that walk away. I tend to give myself one task per day, maybe remove paint from a fork leg, next day prep for paint, day after get it painted.
Too many try to do too much too soon and burn out.
The feeling of satisfaction at the end makes it all worthwhile and you will find yourself "just looking" at other restoration projects for sale. ____________________ Wading through the thick tapestry of life one day at a time. |
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thanks tinkicker..this is my third deplorable rescue and I tend to take it easy as I go, no rushing, no budget. I'm doing it to keep busy, because I love it, and to keep something special going and in this case, because its just a bit bonkers to look at. ____________________ Gone: Yamaha DT50lc, Suzuki DR500, Suzuki A100, Kawasaki z250ltd, RD350YPVS, Suzuki DR Big, Kawasaki AR125, Kawasaki KMX200, Suzuki GS1000S, Katana 1100, GS550M, Suzuki RGV250
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tinkicker wrote: | Like drugs or alcohol, you cannot ever redeem the money spent, but you know you have lived your life profitably.... |
Errm.. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600 |
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a fair bit has happened since last post:
front fork stanchions, sliders, seals and dust caps replaced and filled with ATF.
took the exhausts off to replace a seized oil pump cable which busted a exhaust stud so drilled it out which required use of an abba skylift to pretty much rotate the bike into extreme wheelie position to get to the pointing down cylinder exhaust stud. It would be the one of the pointing down cylinder...saying that..the pointing up cylinder you wouldnt be able to drill anything without removing motor..so..honda gods eh..funny as fsck. Painted the 3 pipes. Theyre ok. Cleaned the 3 silencers, there...mostly ok, although scratched from all the sliding the previous owner was a fan of. Went to see my good friends at AllSpeed and had a natter. Maybe we have a plan.
new clutch cable, choke cable, speedo cable. Can confirm speedo works.
Rear shock preload...works!
sourced a headlight!
Nice new set of blue coolant hoses and clips from Samco. its really nice stuff. Also, it better be, was costly£££££
stripped off 3 x rubber carb intake manifolds as they are cracked and giving them some special sauce..it may work...i will decide.
(not sure if I mentioned but the carbs were solid...as in the slides didnt move, the choke rod didnt move...Ive resolved all of this a while ago...Ive test started the bike to ensure it wasnt seized etc)
I'm onto my fourth litre of degreaser, yay me!
many bolts removed, cleaned up, threads run through with tap 'n die to get rid of old threadlock etc and refitted.
new HT coils! new leads! new caps! voila!
brackets...many many many brackets...all painted now.
It has more clean and less rust, percentage wise, after this last week and is starting to look like a bike again. This is encouraging(tm)
Next endeavours are chain and sprockets (arrived today), then moving onto the brakes. Ive fitted a new front master cylinder/perch/handle and am waiting for a new rear master to arrive. new seals are here by me and will come up with a way to push out the caliper pistons, which obviously dont want to move. I've also found a tub of bolts and another two brackets which Ive identified as "all the weird bits for the front calipers to mount" which is awesome because I was dreading buying random bolts one by one from various places.
I think, once the above has been fitted, that will complete the mechanical works, at which point it should run on its own steam with petrol from its own petrol tank and oil from its own oil tank independently.
Then, we move to cosmetics. In anticipation, I've 3d printed some random fairing lugs I found on thingiverse so I can see which ones best match up. Every panel either has a bit missing, or a crack,or serious paint damage. The worst, by far, is the front upper fairing as this was cracked on the left and right, then stored upside down for all these years to the point the plastic has actually deformed. To make matters worse, the fairing antler is also bent. I just cant work out which side is bent, how it actually needs to be etc as there is no frame of reference due to the upper fairing being essentially out of shape. I have two unknowns.
Anyway, onwards and upwards. ____________________ Gone: Yamaha DT50lc, Suzuki DR500, Suzuki A100, Kawasaki z250ltd, RD350YPVS, Suzuki DR Big, Kawasaki AR125, Kawasaki KMX200, Suzuki GS1000S, Katana 1100, GS550M, Suzuki RGV250
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lovely little sticker on front mudguard. ____________________ Gone: Yamaha DT50lc, Suzuki DR500, Suzuki A100, Kawasaki z250ltd, RD350YPVS, Suzuki DR Big, Kawasaki AR125, Kawasaki KMX200, Suzuki GS1000S, Katana 1100, GS550M, Suzuki RGV250
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