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PostPosted: 18:30 - 05 Aug 2024    Post subject: Farage riots what is next? Reply with quote

Farage followers thought that alleged killer was muslim. Hence Farage nazis caused mayhem outbreaks of anti-immigrant violence in a number of cities and towns, leaving the new UK government scrambling to control the worst disorder in more than a decade.

Crowds of far-right Farage followers set fire to hotels housing asylum seekers, leaving those inside trapped and terrified, while throngs of rioters in other cities damaged public buildings and clashed with police, throwing objects at officers and smashing their vehicles and burnt a library.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/nazis-burn-books-gone-one-29673734

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According to racist Farage these are people that have valid concerns and we should not interfere with racist thugs god given right to hate foreigners and all people of color.

'Nazis burn books - these have gone one step further and burnt a library'


https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/05/uk/uk-far-right-protests-explainer-gbr-intl/index.html

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Farage has released two videos since three children were murdered in Southport last week. In the first, he questioned whether police were withholding information about who was responsible for the murders.

It came at a time when false information was circulating on social media that a Muslim asylum seeker was responsible, which fuelled disorder at a mosque in Southport.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/aug/04/watchdog-should-investigate-farages-dangerous-comments-says-liverpool-mp
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 05 Aug 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

When, O Val, do you mean to cease abusing our patience? How long is that madness of yours still to mock us? When is there to be an end of that unbridled audacity of yours, swaggering about as it does now? Do not the nightly guards placed on the Palatine Hill — do not the watches posted throughout the city — does not the alarm of the people, and the union of all good men — does not the precaution taken of assembling the members in this most defensible place — do not the looks and countenances of this venerable body here present, have any effect upon you? Do you not feel that your plans are detected? Do you not see that your conspiracy is already arrested and rendered powerless by the knowledge which every one here possesses of it? What is there that you did last night, what the night before — where is it that you were — who was there that you summoned to meet you - what design was there which was adopted by you, with which you think that any one of us is unacquainted?

Shame on the age and on its principles! The forum is aware of these things; the moderators see them; and yet this man lives. Lives! aye, he comes even into the forum. He takes a part in the public deliberations; he is watching and marking down and checking off for slaughter every individual among us. And we, gallant men that we are, think that we are doing our duty to motorcycling if we keep out of the way of his frenzied attacks.

You ought, O Val, long ago to have been led to execution by command of the moderators. That destruction which you have been long plotting against us ought to have already fallen on your own head.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 05 Aug 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do all know that the quickest way to kill a thread is to not reply to it.
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 11 Aug 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't posted here in a zillion years.

Rioty rioters were wankers.

Disillusioned, forgotten and Shhh! white Shhh! communities lashing out in hopelessness? Not intrinsically wankers.

Fairness where it's due, when the 2012 riots happened I was my good lefty self and argued that there is an underlying reason for it.

Well the same needs to be applied now.

And even if it was quite literally "they're all just racists", well that is still A Problem, and no amount of "they're all just racists!" will fix it.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 11 Aug 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wishing people to not be racist is a fantasy in the same vein as The New Soviet Man (and Woman).

There is a tension between being suspicious of Them and keeping Us safe. To reject the Outsider is to reject new ideas and accept stagnation yet new ideas (note: not necessarily better ideas) may risk destabilising the existing social structure.

The solution to "Them and Us" is to make Them... Us - integration of the new with the old. We have, as a society, not only failed with integration we have utterly rejected the concept and embraced segregation. So why then are we dismayed by the inevitable sectarian violence?
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 11 Aug 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Paris Olympics is nearly over so thankfully we can hand back the rioting baton to the French. It was never really our thing.
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 11 Aug 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Wishing people to not be racist is a fantasy in the same vein as The New Soviet Man (and Woman).

There is a tension between being suspicious of Them and keeping Us safe. To reject the Outsider is to reject new ideas and accept stagnation yet new ideas (note: not necessarily better ideas) may risk destabilising the existing social structure.

The solution to "Them and Us" is to make Them... Us - integration of the new with the old. We have, as a society, not only failed with integration we have utterly rejected the concept and embraced segregation. So why then are we dismayed by the inevitable sectarian violence?


Exactly. And whatever is done now to try and sort it out is too late. Even the much used communities (spit) tag does nothing more than accentuate the differences between each group and area.
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 11 Aug 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

We can look back in history. Technical knowledge may have increased substantially but people haven't really changed much over the last 150,000 years or so.

When rulers become wholly disconnected from their subjects something or someone will eventually come along to bring the old order crashing down.
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