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PostPosted: 17:52 - 18 Jul 2024    Post subject: Rain leaking into fuel tank from fuel cap (SYM XS125-K) Reply with quote

When rain hits the fuel cap on my SYM, it leaks right into the fuel tank, via 2 holes (I tried to illustrate where the leaks are) leading to water build up in my fuel tank (which is super uncool). Anybody know if I'm missing a seal or SYMs just come like that?
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 18 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

First thing: if that is indeed a photograph of your filler cap, two of the allen-head cap screws are visibly loose.

Secondly: there is typically an o-ring that seals the cap to the tank. It is designed to seal the tank so that the tank breathes through the evaporative emissions control system. If sealing properly, the o-ring seal will be water tight.
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 18 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some tanks also have a drainage system for petrol overspill and water. Maybe you have a pipe that's blocked?
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 18 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above, that's not the bit that seals, there should be an overflow pipe running from the area under your two blue circles to under the bike somewhere. That area is effectively an overflow catch and is outside the tank. The tank proper starts at the edge of the smaller hole under that cap where you stick the end of the pump, there should be a rubber seal which butts against that.

Again as above, if water is building up in the overflow area under the cap, the overflow hose is probably blocked.

Picture of a similar fuel cap off google images labelled for illustration purposes.
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PostPosted: 07:23 - 19 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had this issue once. The drain pipe was blocked (blew it out with compressed air and a dead wasp came out the end) so the filler neck would hold rain water. When you opened the flap, the water would then then go into the tank.
Clear the drain hose and run some dry fuel additive to remove any water sitting at the bottom of your tank, or drain the tank.
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 22 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeffyjeff wrote:
Secondly: there is typically an o-ring that seals the cap to the tank. It is designed to seal the tank so that the tank breathes through the evaporative emissions control system. If sealing properly, the o-ring seal will be water tight.


O seal should be there (see attached image)
It would just seem that the drainage hole/pipe in the overfill area is just clogged.

BTTD wrote:
I had this issue once. The drain pipe was blocked (blew it out with compressed air and a dead wasp came out the end) so the filler neck would hold rain water. When you opened the flap, the water would then then go into the tank.
Clear the drain hose and run some dry fuel additive to remove any water sitting at the bottom of your tank, or drain the tank.


Seems like exactly the same problem I have, I'll try blowing it out with compressed air and see how that goes.
There might be a slight amount of water in the tank from when I opened it once after some rain, and some water fell into the tank, but it's probably no big deal, as from my 4/5+ hours of driving and running the engine after that, it hasn't struggled a single bit.

Thank you all for the replies and help, I'll post an update once I (Hopefully) get it fixed.
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 22 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

CraddyMcPatty wrote:
jeffyjeff wrote:
Secondly: there is typically an o-ring that seals the cap to the tank. It is designed to seal the tank so that the tank breathes through the evaporative emissions control system. If sealing properly, the o-ring seal will be water tight.


O seal should be there (see attached image)
It would just seem that the drainage hole/pipe in the overfill area is just clogged.

BTTD wrote:
I had this issue once. The drain pipe was blocked (blew it out with compressed air and a dead wasp came out the end) so the filler neck would hold rain water. When you opened the flap, the water would then then go into the tank.
Clear the drain hose and run some dry fuel additive to remove any water sitting at the bottom of your tank, or drain the tank.


Seems like exactly the same problem I have, I'll try blowing it out with compressed air and see how that goes.
There might be a slight amount of water in the tank from when I opened it once after some rain, and some water fell into the tank, but it's probably no big deal, as from my 4/5+ hours of driving and running the engine after that, it hasn't struggled a single bit.

Thank you all for the replies and help, I'll post an update once I (Hopefully) get it fixed.


Update: Blew compressed air into the hole, air came out the other side of the drain nozzle thing, so then I tried to put some metal wire down the drain, got about 5-10cm before it was completely stopped in its way by something made of metal. Came to the conclusion that it's maybe a permanent filter or something, so I just let it be.

Basically it could be that the water last time didn't exit the overfill area due to maybe the hose on the end pointing upwards instead of straight down.
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