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Just in Case
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 23 Sep 2024    Post subject: Honda CBF 500 -04 (twin) Reply with quote

Hi there Smile I bought this Honda CBF 500 -04 It has Air Injection (in front of the engine) I have tried to find out how this is working / its purpose . I have had no luck !
Anyone ?

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PostPosted: 14:49 - 23 Sep 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's an emissions control thing. As I recall it just injects fresh air into the exhaust so that when the bike is submitted for emissions tests, the tailpipe emissions look better than they otherwise would. I've found a few threads about removing it and it generally seems to improve rideability and power, but I don't know if a dyno setup is required for the full effect or not.
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 23 Sep 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful MarJay.
Spot on !
Thank you!
I`ll just leave like it is, very pleased Smile
Take care and enjoy
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 25 Sep 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like it's the same as the system that was on the Hornet 600. It's called the PAIR system. Pulsed Air Intake Reed.
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 25 Sep 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the emissions regulation system on the CB-1 and my mate had it on his FMX650. I've bought the CB-1 with the system already removed. The previous owner just took everything off and blocked two exhaust ports comming out of the head by conecting them with a hose, no tune up, no dyno testing. The bike ran great and suspiciously fast (198km/h GPS).

Now, as for the FMX650, i had a go on it before and after my mate removed the system and after removal the engine just felt more responsive and livelier. No tune up, no dyno testing required, although fidling with the mixture could result in a bit better performance, as he efectively removed a restrictor.

NOTE: In CZE motorcycles are exempt from the emissions testing for the MOT, also in CZE motorcycle MOT is good for 4 years.

This kind of thing. Those bottom pipe bits mount to the head (exhaust side) and on my CB-1 those pipes were cut off and connected with a hose together by the previous owner. That hose melted away twice in the first year of riding the bike, so I later on I had a friend of mine weld thouse pipes shut creating perfect plugs.

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PostPosted: 08:50 - 27 Sep 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those secondary air systems are fairly common, the gist of it is that allowing a bit of air into the exhaust will theoretically encourage more complete combustion of the exhaust gases.
I had one on my ZX6R that ran between some reed valves on the rocker cover and the airbox, but it had a vacuum valve that was supposed to open and shut depending on the vacuum level. The valve was knackered plus all the rubber gubbins just gets in the way when working on the bike so I just removed and plugged everything up.
Only difference I noticed was that the bike used to occasionally give a few pops when rolling off from high revs and full throttle, and now it doesn't.
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 27 Sep 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a PAIR system.

Just remove it and blank it off. Much more room to work on the bike.
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