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Farmingstock
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 02 Jul 2025    Post subject: Poor starting moped Reply with quote

I have a 4T Piaggio Zip 50cc that will eventually start but takes forever.

Changed the plug (spark is fine)
Checked the valves (.10 and .15)
Changed the choke to manual
Charged battery fully
Changed the fuel
Checked the fuel pump (fine to the carb)
Cleaned the carb

The bike will start eventually and starts fine once it’s started but once left overnight or for long periods it takes forever to start and you get the feeling it isn’t going to start.

Any suggestions?
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A100man
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 02 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

compression check?
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Farmingstock
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 02 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
compression check?


Not done one because the way the engine is located Can’t get a tester into the plug hole without removing the engine.

It runs fine once started and doesn’t lack power for one of them!
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sickpup
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PostPosted: 22:57 - 02 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Farmingstock wrote:
Not done one because the way the engine is located Can’t get a tester into the plug hole without removing the engine.


Get one with a rubber hose, not a push on one.

Iirc if you remove the under seat bucket you can get access to the head that way.
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Farmingstock
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 08 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had another look today and can’t test the compression without taking the engine out, there is bearly enough room to get a socket on the end of the plug!
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that_impulse_guy
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PostPosted: 09:15 - 09 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

it does sound like you need to investigate "changed the choke to manual" a bit more.

there is nothing that changes the starting procedure between hot and cold, besides the choke. Going over what you said, power is fine, hot starting is fine..restarting is fine.

so check out choke a bit. If you changed it to manual was it because you had good information that the automatic choke wasnt working? etc etc...go over that part of your thinking and redo if you find error in the logic. You perhaps have more info now, than when you did this specific mod that may contradict an earlier finding.

as a far flung "hey but what if it isnt the choke coz Ive checked it 100 times" then assuming all else what you said is true there is nothing else to check.
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 09 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds daft but have you checked the air filter? I spent ages trying to figure out why my scooter wouldn't start and a new filter fixed it Laughing The old one just became too blocked up even though it didn't look too bad.
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