Proposed Changes - To Motorcycle Training and Licensing UK

[kawakid]

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/improving-moped-and-motorcycle-training-testing-and-licensing/improving-moped-and-motorcycle-training-testing-and-licensing

Its quite an interesting read and it will be fun to see what gets implemented. The motorcycling industry in my opinion has been damaged by the licensing process.

I totally agree with the provision to do a course or extra training to move from A2 to A , the most pointless test ever. (Same Z650, with restrictor turned off or on).
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[MarJay]

This actually sounds eminently sensible and pragmatic! Wow. A government doing pragmatic things surrounding motorcycle training! Wonders never cease.
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[A100man]

Theres a questionnaire you can complete too..

https://survey.dvsa.gov.uk/jfe/form/SV_6Yyo58EdlVAA57g
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[stinkwheel]

I don't think the whole trend for doing an intensive course with your test at the end of it has helped matters. You land up with a motorcycle licence and very little in the way of actual riding experience in many cases.

When I learned, I did my CBT and got on the road on a 125 then after a few months, had a lesson once a week with an instructor. Then did my test when he though I was ready. This meant I was going out and actually practicing the stuff I'd learned on my lessons and had ridden thousands of miles before attempting a test and being allowed out on a bigger bike.

In some ways, the modern test would actually turn this kind of learning/riding into a disadvantage, they expect people on tests to be seriously wet behind the ears and riding roboticvally to a fixed formula. You do things once you've got some road experience they aren't expecting you to do on test. My driving test showed me that (which I did several years after getting my full bike licence). I got minors for short-shifting on a gravel-strewn corner and for taking a wide line up to a junction so I could see further. The examiner actually asked at the end why I'd done those things and agreed that I should keep doing them when I explained. Passed anyway so it didn't matter.
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[rpsmith79]

Good to see they are talking about requiring the Theory & Hazard Perception as part of the CBT

It has never sat well with me that you can perpetually renew your CBT every 2 years having never actually picked up a copy of the Highway code or passed the Theory test
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[c_dug]

Actually looks like some quite sensible suggestions for the most part.

That said, changing the perpetual CBT option is just going to push delivery riders further into the illegal e-bike route. Love them or loath them E-bikes are part of the future of small personal transport and there needs to be some more sensible options for registering and legally riding more powerful e-bikes in place pretty quickly.

I think there needs to be some sort of hybrid option in place for e-bikes somewhat similar to a 50cc moped.

I wouldn't have a huge issue with 50cc's and e-bikes being restricted to 30mph being allowed to be ridden by 16+ on a perpetual CBT type licence, possibly not having to have the full suite of lights and indicators (just a basic head and tail light) and being far more easily registerable with some sort of yearly licence plate system.
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[stinkwheel]

[CarlW12]

I am currently on A2 and I am in favour of the changes. When I passed a few years ago, the bike was a MT07, retesting on one unrestricted has been something I’ve never wanted to do to progress as it just seems so pointless. I already proved to the examiners I can handle the machine competently for the road, why would I need to again?

Further training instead seems much more logical and I would happily consider it to move up to ‘A’. Fingers crossed this actually gets implemented.
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Carl
A2 Licence Holder
Previous bikes: YBR; GPZ500S; Kawasaki Ninja 250R

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