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Keen
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PostPosted: 09:10 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: had a little spill... Reply with quote

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so last night I just pulled out of the supermarket carpark and I'm riding along as normal doing like 35, when I casually brake as the car in front is slowing for a zebra crossing...... WHACK.... the front wheel just locks up instantly and I go down on the right side, smashing the mirror and indicator. The bike is pretty much ok, but thats cos it landed on my foot, the big toe of which is now purple, so I got it bandaged at work by the medical centre and I'm gonna get it x-rayed tonight... I also have all manner of cuts and bruises on my hand and arm. To top it off, I just bought a new lid (roof boxer) literally a week ago, now its got a tiny little white scratch on its otherwise shiny new finish- fuck.

But I don't have a clue what happened, I wasn't braking hard, I'm in the south of france so the road was dry and clean, the brake just malfunctioned in some way and instantly locked the wheel. After I picked the bike up the front brake was just gone, you can pull the lever to the grip and nothing happens, so I had to coast home using the rear brake. I haven't had a chance to look at my bike yet, couldn't be arsed last night and I had to get to work this morning, does anyone know what the hell might of happened to it?

I am not having a good week Sad
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PostPosted: 09:16 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know what happened, but I'm glad you are OK.

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PostPosted: 11:15 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unlucky mate, but as Sadie said, at least you are ok. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

That could of been the motorway, I think your lucky.

Had your brake pads done recently? Had they been squeaking when applied before that accident?
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could have been diesel on the road, from what you describe.
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I checked the road afterwards, I thought it was diesel/oil as well but it was clean.

It was definately something with the brakes, like I said they don't work now, they're just dead, but I haven't had a chance to look at it yet- didn't feel like messing with the bike last night when I was licking my wounds.

It was making a slight noise on the way there, I meant to check it when I got there but I was in a rush and forgot, paid the price I suppose. Haven't changed the pads recently or anything, although its almost certainly something with them. I'll find out tonight.

Also, don't worry, I realise how lucky I was, just half an hour earlier I was riding back from work, the road is nuts, really twisty, especially the last bit, its a rediculously steep hill, about 5 switchbacks in a row, if it had happened on the way down there I'd be lying in hospital right now, if I was lucky....
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Not sure what could cause the problem you have.

It is possible that an overfilled brake fluid reservior could cause the wheel to lock up when braking (as the fluid expands) even when you release the brakes. It isn't likely though, and also only going to happen when the reservior is VERY full.

The accident itself could easily have allowed air into the system while the bike is on its side which would make them spongy.

I also tend to think that either diesel or antifreeze on the road is the most likely cause. Bad timing would mean that it would not require much of it.

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PostPosted: 12:36 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the rest has been said - just glad you're ok mate!! Thumbs Up Karma Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might have partially spat a pad out which got jammed up between the caliper and the disc and subsequently fell out altogether. I have had this happen on the rear disc of a GPZ500s, luckily it only locked momentarily before spitting the thing all the way out and making a horrendous graunching noise as the piston rubbed against the disc. Shocked
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stinkwheel, I was asking my dad about it and thats exactly what he suggested, he was telling me to check if the pads are still there when I get home. I'll know tonight I suppose.

I still really don't think it was diesel, I was barely breaking, just scrubbing off speed and the wheel just locked hard. It was horrible because it was so unexpected, was lying on the floor for a second wondering what the hell could have happened..
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

good that your ok, what bike you got btw?
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you're ok Keen. Don't let it put you off mate. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks,

a suzuki GS500, thankfully no plastics to replace, in fact the bike is practically unhurt, just a smashed mirror and indicator. My leg acted as a crash bar for it Smile

I don't think it'll put me off, besides, having no choice but to get back on it straight after and get it home probably helped! I crashed a couple of years ago and I was back on as soon as my bike was fixed, I think you just have to accept that it'll happen now and then and learn from it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
It might have partially spat a pad out which got jammed up between the caliper and the disc and subsequently fell out altogether. I have had this happen on the rear disc of a GPZ500s


Good call, and I think the GS500 for most years uses the same front caliper as the GPZ500. As such there is nothing physically holding the front pads in place so if they get too low they probably can slide out.

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PostPosted: 17:28 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's just utter fuckage! Crying or Very sad Such a shame about your new lid Mad. Check the pads and bleed them thoroughly with FRESH fluid. I've had spongy brakes for a while on my old machine, but never had a lock up.
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unlucky, least your OK.

Iv seen lockups caused by pads moving aswell, only on the back wheel though, which is a hell of a lot easier to control of course (if you get a chance to control it)

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