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Posted: 18:04 - 18 Mar 2002 Post subject: |
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the zxr is a bit scatty in corners and doesnt react very well on bumpy roads, its fairly big for a 400, a vrf or rvf would be better, better performance and handeling and better build quality. Kawasakis rust and corode quickly. ____________________ "The food was not undelicious"
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Posted: 18:57 - 18 Mar 2002 Post subject: oi :oP |
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why u all giving it about my bike round corners .. have any of you ridden one?
i think the handling is spot on round corners, although, the first time i go around a bend, i go slower just to make sure theres no bumps, then any other times i go round it i cane it ... i rekon the bike would be nicer with a steering damper, but generally have no complaints at all
its down to you, but i prefer the zxr to the rvf, vfr, cbr and gsxr (400's not the big bikes )
at 5'10" u should fit on the bike fine, as retrofly said it is a big 400, and its definitly bigger than korns rvf.
oh, and if you want to keep the rust off just keep the bike covered up ____________________ -Zimma |
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Posted: 20:59 - 18 Mar 2002 Post subject: zxr400 |
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hey, im gonna do my full test soon and at the end of summer, and some hard working to get the money, i was thinking of gettin a zxr400.
what are they like and is this a good idea, cause i really wanna get a bigger bike, yea i love my nsr but its just gettin tedious seeing all these bastards on gixers and cbr's an shit.
any info an shit would b helpfull
oh and im bout 5ft 10, will it be a nice fit?
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Hi
Rode one years back. Went OK (and far better than I expected at low revs, as everyone tells you they are gutless at low revs). Suspension is rock hard, but that can be sorted. Finish seems good (the Kwack with the dodgy finish is the GPZ500S), and looking round the 2nd hand import dealers it is far easier to find a good condition ZXR than a CBR400, or even VFR.
All the best
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Posted: 01:25 - 19 Mar 2002 Post subject: i had... |
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145mph down the m3 with the wind behind me
i mean down the straight on a track
seriously tho... its not too gutless below 10k, although korn thinks so.. but hes got a v4 so ...
i actually prefer the sound of my bike to korns.. weve got the same cans, so you can really hear the difference between them although korns does "gurgle"? more under engine braking, which is a nice sound.. mine is definitly a lot louder, could be cos of the twin exhaust outlet port? anyways, both bikes are really nice but, i would still go for the zxr
(biased)? ____________________ -Zimma |
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I'd go for a ...drummroll please... honda v4. Didn't expect that did you?
VFR NC30:
- Great motor, top bollocks low/midrange
- Most of the engine is practically indistructable
- Wicked handling, for a 10+ year old bike
- Loads of them about so not that expensive
- First gear isn't as tall as the rvf so better in traffic
I only rode one for a few minutes before testing the rvf but they felt like the same bike, worth going for if you don't need all the uprated bits on the nc35.
RVF NC35:
- Practically the same top bollocks motor as the vfr
- Best handling in the class
- Top end power delivery isn't that great, although...
- ...it shares the highest power output with the vfr
- Gorgous RC45 replica styling
- It'll eat anything else 'round the bends
- Rarer than the vfr and very expensive to buy/maintain
- Close ratio gear box, so don't even think about...
- ...riding it in traffic, top of 1st gear is just over 60mph
My bike, so of course I'm biased - but I really believe it's the best you can buy, it corners spot on and gives you loads of feedback everywhere. As for power, it's got the top spot as regards bhp and torque figures, but it's 5mph behind the zxr on top speed. The power band is stupidly wide so you can really get an edge when exiting corners, and it pulls like a train right from the bottom of the counter. They cost a lot to keep serviced though, being imports. Only thing I'd change is to have it tuned to smooth out the top 1000rpm or so, I used to think it needed a steering damper but I've learned to trust the feedback.
ZXR:
- Smoothest top end, you can just keep bouncing it off the limiter
- Feels gutless when you're not above 10k after being used to the v4
- Sounds very nice, apart from the last 1/4 of the rev range
- Doesn't go round corners too well (as Zim will tell you )
- Engine braking? What's all that malarkey about then?
- It's got a bigger rear tyre than it needs and this messes with the handling
Zim's got one of these and to be honest it doesn't corner. He's happy with it but it's a good 10/15mph slower through the bends the rvf/vfr, it's lighter than both of them but the width of it (it's fucking huge) and the oversized rear wheel mean it's not as flickable. Having said that it's got the smoothest top end power, when I rode it I was bouncing off the rev limiter all the time because I'd been used to the feedback vibes the v4 provides. No real low end/midrange to speak of, so if you're not in the power band you're not going anywhere very fast - but it is the quickest in a straight line once it gets going or if you're willing to sacrifice the clutch for a quicker start. Excellent brakes too but the handling spoils it.
Bottom line:
VFR: If you're on a budget and want the most bang for your buck.
ZXR: For very fast, straight roads where you can use the top end.
RVF: If you've got the money to buy/service it - best 400 going. |
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spot on handeling, nice engine, lovley sound, loox i like, and no purple like the zxr, so, its training, full test, fail, full test, pass, find bike, buy bike, kick the arse of all the barrys that take the piss cause of the sound and top speed of my nsr and piss on the bigger bikers who show no respect by nodding
got my checklist ____________________ peece*cheers
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ya cant go wrong with a honda ____________________ peece*cheers
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bitter bitter defeat.... oh well
dont blame me when u decide maybe u shoulda got the zxr
hehehehhe.
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Posted: 23:56 - 20 Mar 2002 Post subject: NC30 rulz |
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Now I like what you write korn. Everything seems to be exactly what I read on every 400 review page I read. (and I read a lot of reviews on the net).
I would love to own the RVF400 NC35 but as you said they are a bit expensive, so I went for the VFR400 NC30, and you know what- its bloody lovely.
Only downside is that I have to wait till my full test before I can ride it on the roads. |
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Posted: 21:40 - 21 Mar 2002 Post subject: stolen words |
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Just pinched this off a RVF/VFR forum:
Quote: | I note that someone has already posted a summary of the Performance
Bikes article from their November '97 edition.
RiDE magazine ran a "Rough Guide" to Honda 400 V4s two years ago. Their
top two were the VFR400 (NC30) and the RFV400 (NC35), but they gave the
edge to the NC30 - most likely because of the price advantage.
This is what they wrote about the two bikes:
VFR400R (NC30)
1988-1992
56bhp/129mph
44mpg
170kg
#3295-#4100
Telltale signs: thick beam frame, silencer on left, fat tyres
Wow. It looks like a mini RC30 because it is one. Beam aluminium
frame, silencer on the left, 17in front wheel, giant tyres, floating
discs, 4-pot calipers, two radiators, close ratio gearbox, preload
adjustable forks, adjustable rear damping.
[They then compared it to the 1987-1989 NC24]: suspension, tyres and
steering are infinitely better. The slight power increase over the NC24
is deceptive; the motor's livelier and (once derestricted with a #70 rev
booster) can even hit 140mph.
VERDICT Light, powerful, free-revving, with near perfect braking,
steering and cornering and bags of character. A true classic - *the*
one to go for.
[Note: I rode an NC30 at a track school once. My main recollection is
that it was too small for me. I am a skinny 6ft with a 34in inseam. My
elbows and knees were all over the place.]
RVF400 (NC35)
>From 1994
59bhp/136mph
40mpg
165kg
#7000
Telltale signs: upside-down forks with rebound damping adjusters, high
price tag.
Same frame, swing arm, exhaust, gearbox, wheels and tank as NC30. New
bodywork [from their pictures the main part of the fairing is the same,
but with different graphics; the front fender and seat unit are
different], upside-down forks, adjustable rebound damping, lighter
internals, higher compression, no fuel injection. Carburation is
brilliant - it goes like a 550. Restrictor easy to bypass, stunning
build quality, flex-free forks improve braking and turning. No pillion
seat. [According to their pictures the RVF has pillion pad on the seat
hump, same as the NC30. Go figure.]
VERDICT Best 400 yet, but not worth it when NC30 is so good.
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Posted: 18:30 - 01 Apr 2002 Post subject: Check this out... |
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Hi,
I know i'm probably a moron for choosing the ZXR as my first bike as i am only 17 and will get one in a few months time.
I think it's fucking gorgeous compared to the other 400's i think, and my bro in law did suggest getting the Suzuki 400 bandit or 500E as it hasnt got a front fairing so if u fuck it up, then u dont have to pay £300 for a new panel, just watch out for the frame. But i think i'l stick to my former, get the ZXR.
Check this out, (a woman who I met on ... www.ukbike.com)
Introduced me to this community, she's owned a Kawasaki for 7 years and she is 29, she's also 5'2 ( for all you short arses like me ), And she says, her first bike was an RS125 and she hated it... Love to hear!
Anyway here's the community, check out the pics....
https://communities.msn.co.uk/ZXR400OwnersGroup/bikephotos.msnw
P.S Some1 on this site mentioned that if u take off a tooth on the front sprocket, u'll beat an R1 off the lights, but loose about 5-15mph top speed!
Later, Tony... 8) |
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hey right i'm only 16 :E but i'm intending on getting a 400, urrm i entered a few other forums but i think this one is the best, as you all sound like you know wat you are talking about, i'm 6ft and i reckon i wont grow much more, 6ft 1 maybe. i love the ZXR as it looks the nuts, but so many peeps have said its the best 400 for price etc, but wont be suited for a taller rider!!!! also i'm on a budget! i like the mini blade aswell! well i like most sport 400's which one/s do you reckon would be most suited for a 17 year old (i also have to think about the insurance and it being restricted to 33BHP :'( ) also i have been looking at the RS 250 please help Byrneey@hotmail.com is me email ____________________ It wasnt me officer
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Erm, sorry
Scatty in corners?
dont corner well?
youve obviously only ever ridden a fucked ZXR then.
ZXR is one of the best handling bikes I've ridden (I have ridden a few....) and a lot of other people do agree, it's got a great front end and leans so easily.
Don't believe what the others tell you! I rode one all summer last year and it was great. ____________________ Current Toys: 06 Yamaha WR250F | Nissan 350Z GT | Tech 4 Homes |
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OMG!! , My old screen name, wow, aint seen that in ages
oh and i ended up getting and still have a very lovely vfr 400.
why was this dug up anyway?
someone has been searching through the archives again, havent they ____________________ www.wilcollinsphoto.co.uk |
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WTF I didn't even notice it was an old thread! lol ____________________ Current Toys: 06 Yamaha WR250F | Nissan 350Z GT | Tech 4 Homes |
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