What I need to do to fail my cbt?

[jamie192]

No, i dont want to fail it, if you have failed why? (please tell me your storys)
If you know what things you can fail on, i was told by an insurance company that you fail if you fall off.

Thank for looking!
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[Ste]

[jamie192]

thanks for the reply, im looking foward to hears NSR andy's story I might send him the link to this post.
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[Frost]

Basically to fail to have to be stupid/arogant, and not listen to a thing the instructor tells you. you have to pay little or no attention to any safety advise he gives you and generally ride like a ped boi.

[jamie192]

lol, ok ride like a ped boi ill keep that in mind. thanks for the advice!
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[Stu_666]

There's a post I did on here a wee while back where people offered good advice to me after I 'failed' my CBT.

I did half of my CBT again last Saturday and got on much better. Training school was 100% better and the blokes really helpful. Its a shame the weather was so shite and the road section had to be put back to this Sunday.

Anyway, I would say man things I learn't from it are to listen to what the instructors are telling you, take things slowly, try not to get flustered if you f*ck up and really try and remember to relax on the bike. Oh and nice smooth actions with the clutch and accelerator.

When's the CBT booked for?

[Dom_]

wow, someone managed to fail 3 times?

[Bomberman]

A young lass got sent home from the CBT while I was taking mine. Essentially she had no balance whatsoever, and had no control over the ped at all. I felt quite bad for her, but there was no way she could have gone on the road
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[Gazdaman]

I think it's quite difficult to fail a CBT.

In my group we had a ped boi, who turned out to be a complete nob, he couldn't get the bike onto the centre stand, did everything wrong, he infuriated everyone.

And a girl who was just horribly incompetent.

Both passed.

Legally you have to complete a figure of 8, which is simple, and basically just show that you're not going to be a complete danger on the road.

I wouldn't worry about it, just have a fun day messing about on someone elses bike.

Gaz

[mchaggis]

[NSR125-Kid-UK]

To fail...

*Use the clutch as an on/off lever
*use the front brake as an on/off lever
*stamp on the rear brake to stop
*stand up every time you stop
*Try to get your knee down at the pulse poundingly fast speed of 25mph on an SR125
*somehow make the tyres screech on a yamaha SR125
*for slow control, ride at 15mph and maintain that you can't go any slower
*hit all of the cones on your slow control assessment
*screw up the clutch, and crash into the back of your instructor's CB500, trying to ride through a junction when you should be stopping at it.

That's all I can think of now .

(Yes I did do all of the above)

I passed my CBT on the fourth attempt to my complete amazement, I went on to get an NSR, and ride scooters for pizza hut, so it goes to show, there's hope for everyone .
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[divuk83]

[yambabe]

The best way not to "fail" a CBT is to see it for what it is.

A CBT is NOT a test, you can't actually pass or fail it.

Your CBT is the amount of training your instructor thinks you need to allow you to ride safely on the road. This depends on you, the bike you are on, and your previous experience.

If you have never ridden a bike before, you may need more than one day's practice to be able to do it safely.

Personally, I cheated. We had a ratty old XS250 at the time, and my other half taught me to ride that on Asda's carpark. Took me about 2 weeks doing 2-3 evenings a week (hour or so at a time) before I got the hang of it. So if you think of a CBT as about 5 hours of riding, I wouldn't have "passed" first day either!

The main thing is to relax and enjoy your day. Take your time, and remember that it's not a race, or a test. If you need to come back for another day, you haven't failed you just haven't quite got the hang of it yet!
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[Laura]

I crashed on my cbt and still did not fail the crash just about proved how well my biking would go
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[Gazdaman]

[jamie192]

Thank you all for the replies, im doing it on my own bike as i am already use to the clutch i can pull away in first and second without staling it, unless im up a hill then only in first. I can ride along at walking speed, do stoppies and can get the front wheel of the ground, but i guess they arent going to help me in a cbt. I can do a U turn i was riding around in my back garden for a while but its just so tempting to put your foot down, ill have to do a bit of practise a few days before. As for a figure of eight ive never tried but im sure it cant be that hard i think ive learnt the hardest bit (pulling away) i completely killed my battery perfecting it but it will be worth it. How much of the highway code do they test you on (stupid, my sister should be able to tell me all this she only did it a few weeks but shes so stupid she forgot already). Do they ask you much about awareness of safety? Even if i know how to pull away will they still go through it with me and will i have to do it there way if its slightly different? Thanks for your time i look forward to your replies.!!
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[Ste]

Stoppies and wheelies, impress your CBT instructor after he's given you the CBT bit of paper.

Being able to do a U turn without putting a foot down in the requirement for the full license test and not for CBT, for CBT you need to be able to do U turn safely, so having to put your foot down quickly etc isn't a problem.

Figure of eight is easier than a U turn I reckon, but either way it's not too hard and from what you've said it shouldn't be a problem at all.

They just ask a few questions about basic bits of it, like what the road sign means and similar things, hopefully shouldn't present a problem. When I did my CBT the only person who had a few problems with the highway code questions had a full car driving license and had driven there that day.

Believe you'll be asked basic stuff about safety awareness, such as suitable clothing and safety stuff, and if you don't know it then they'll run through it with you.

They'll go through pulling away as the CBT is done with a group and it is fair to expect there will be people who havn't used a bike before, once you've been able to demonstate it correctly you won't have to go through doing it with the people just learning clutch control etc. You'll be expected to do it in a 'normal' way, so gently increasing the revs with clutch slip (not too much) and being in control of the bike, so assuming you can do it like that, you won't be expected to learn some new way of doing it.

I really wouldn't pull away in second gear whilst on your CBT, the instructor will just think that you're not making good gear choice.

[jamie192]

With the pulling away in second gear, i learnt that incase i accidently pulled away in second (hoping ill realise im in second and adjust the revs. I was taught how to pull away my my friend who is now 36 and has been rising since 16, yeah i can mess around with the clutch as i feel nessasry. I can pull away fast or slow, more clutch or more revs. i know where my bite point is instantly and the last time i stalled was trying to pull away on a hill in second. 50ccs i find are very easy to pull away because u can full throttle it and still not pull away that fast. I can also pull away on my sisters 125 just as well walking pace ect ect. To be honest i think i could probably ride around on the roads fine now. Ive been in cars lots and i always pay attention to whats going on and the road systems. and i am confident on my bike as you can probably tell by me trying tricks. I get on my bike and find a sense of security, all that i have to work on uit my stopping distance as on a push bike i know i can stop where ever i like but on a motorcycle its a little different. As i used to ride trials on a push bike i dont struggle at all with balance on a bike, even after i have stopped completely on my motorbike i can stay balance without putting my feet down for around 2 seconds, i can do it forever on a push bike but thats another story. If i could legally id ride on the roads right now but there is law and i dont want to run th risk of getting caught.
And thanks again ste your the first one to answer as usual!!
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[Gazdaman]

The B and the T in CBT are basic and training.

They expect you to know nothing, you don't have to prepare for it, it just takes a little common sense, and a little riding talent.

You'll get through it fine.

Gaz

[jamie192]

Thanks every one for the advice i would rate all of them helpful but ill get banned for karma fiddling or something (at leasts i think). you have all been very helpful and put my mind at rest. Thanks again!!
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