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Your engine without throttle will under its own weight and friction slow down, engine breaking... engine breaking is your friend, especially on 125s with abismal brakes.
On my cg i think the vast majority of my slowing down was going down the gears, when something pulls out on you then its not really going to help but its worth practiceing, its not ideal, but it works...
But when your emergency breaking you leave the clutch alone (unless you are in a very high gear or are able to go down a couple), forget its there, pulling in the clutch disconnects the rear wheel from the engine, so you have lost some breaking power, (that is assumeing your not on the throttle!) so leave it till your stopped, if you stall then its not a big deal, defenatly less of a problem than meeting with the side of the offending vehacle...
I know the feeling with crappy drum brakes, you need to keep them in very good condition all the time... ____________________ >RidingSkills<->Tech Tips<->MyBikes< |
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Don't be sorry he asked for it, as do a great many others .
...Yeah leave your clutch out, but don't leave it too late before pulling it in. I managed to lock my rear and there was a worrying clunking noise from the transmission - no permenant damage but still worried me. ____________________ https://www.bikepics.com/members/nsrandy/96rs250/ My Bike!
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| NSR125-Kid-UK wrote: | I managed to lock my rear and there was a worrying clunking noise from the transmission - no permenant damage but still worried me. |
Don't worry, it is just your swingarm chattering up and down and the now stationary chain slapping off the top of it.
I do it all the time on my supermoto, it will lock the rear without touching the back brake due to a combination of massive front-end dive and 660ccs of engine braking. You know you are braking REALLY hard when you get a 'THUMP' from the back end as you come to a complete halt. This is the back wheel hitting the road again .
Best achieved when you come to a halt next to a car at the lights, do it next to the windscreen and your head briefly appears in their line of sight as the front compresses fully and the rear lifts, look round, quick wave, then disappear backwards again as the forks unload. Watch the frantic swivelling of the drivers head as they try to see what the hell just happened.
It is not me, it is the bike that forces you to ride like a tw@ ..honest  ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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LEAVE THE CLUTCH OUT, reduces the chance of the rear locking(esp now its winter) and as they all say bikes with crappy brakes need all the engine braking they can get.
Guessing you havent done you emergancy stop on you test yet  ____________________ F'it DO WHAT EVER MAKES YOU HAPPY!!!!! Even if it screws over everyone else :p
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No, it's expensive and inconvenient.
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You've never ridden a cg125 i'm guessing...
breaking in order of efficency
engine breaking - ever present.
boots - i'm horrificly serious.
brakes.
I think your geting going down the gears and engine breaking mixed up? your useing EB when you brake anyway unless you have the throttle pinned when your comeing into corners... going down the gears, works for me, bliping on downchanges makes it smooth and saves engine wear, done properly its not expensive in any way, haveing gears it inconvinent, but its all part of the fun.
It depends on the engine layout, capacity and loads of other stuff as to how effective it is, on a ford fiesta there is no such thing, on the cg it saved allot of trips into hedges i suspect 99% of drum braked bikes its the same case.
brake pads are cheeper than clutches and gear boxes, if you have good brakes use them!
Not all bikes on the road can stoppie on a tidleywink, sometimes the front and back break is just not enough to stop in a hurry, different bikes need different ways of handleing. ____________________ >RidingSkills<->Tech Tips<->MyBikes< |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 21 years, 96 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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