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killa
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: Jackets Reply with quote

Can anyone recommend a jacket that is not a dedicated bike jacket but is good for most situations?
I have a bike jacket but I don’t wear it for all journeys unless it’s a fair distance or monsoon rain, the jacket I wear regularly is a Sonneti black jacket that is quite tough, sort of water proof but it is showing its age now and I need another one.
What jackets do you wear if not your bike jacket or leathers?

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PostPosted: 12:02 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, leathers for me. Why would I not wear a bike jacket when I'm riding?
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want a bike jacket that also doubles up as a general jacket, HG have several nice ranges. If you want to use a general jacket in the place of a bike jacket.... Confused Do you like your skin and your arms the way they are just now?
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look, each to his own yeah.
I said I do wear the bike jacket sometimes but most of my journeys are about 10 miles and in good conditions.
I wear the Sonneti sometimes because I don’t want to lug a bike jacket around.
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Each to their own yeah, you got two answers and you don't like em. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17:49 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the othes, if you have a bike jacket that is designed to protect you when on a bike, why would you want to wear anything else.....sounds daft, like buying a crash helmet then wearing a baseball cap Thumbs Down

As for only 10 miles, only 100yds is enough of a journey to lose the skin on your arms. Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only 10 miles?? My commute is 2 miles(what????!!!!!), would still wear a leather jacket if I could afford one, did buy an eighty quid textile though Smile
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to commute 3 miles to work every day in full leathers or textiles. Only took 20 mins at most. Then some eegit cager pulled out on me, I slide the bike, and the leathers saved my skin. Shin, thigh and elbow would have had some nasty damage if I was a chav moron wearing a chav jacket and jeans. Even my boots have saved my shin from being broken twice now.
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 09 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are so many jackets out there finding one shouldn't be too difficult

some of the jackets made for scooter riders are pretty good off the bike as well, as are made for the sort who dont want to look like bikers

its still better to get a jacket made for purpose as will fit better for arms, wind resistance etc
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 09 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

dainesefreak wrote:
Sorry, leathers for me. Why would I not wear a bike jacket when I'm riding?


I don’t really see why I’m a “chav moron” for wearing clothes on my bike.
I didn’t buy the bike jacket it was a gift, I can’t afford leathers but id really like some.
Why do you have to answer everything like you do?, I didn’t like the answers because its same high n mighty shit I get every time I ask something.
Can’t you see some rider’s wear bike clothing all the time some don’t, accept that some people choose what to wear.
I ride a 125 at the moment which doesn’t make any difference what clothing you wear it’s still risky, I see guys riding Ninja’s with T-shirt and jeans and I look at them and think mmmm that’s a bit silly, I don’t try and catch him up and shout “Oi chavy moron guy, wear some proper gear!”
Next you’re be telling me you indicate on every corner. Lol Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 09 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You really are a moron aren't you. Just get a fucking Nova and fuck off! You can't afford leathers but you keep going on about getting another shitty 125? You come on a site full of bikers and ask some fucking moronic questions, and don't like the answers.
And yes, I think anyone riding around in jeans is a prick. And yes, I indicate for pertty much every corner, gladly you don't so maybe some day you'll be hit, killed and leave this fucking forum alone!
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 09 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really is a matter of choice if you don't wear protective clothing on your bike.

However, asking bikers, you would assume that the replies you get will be against this! Many of us have had accidents, and most of these are within 10 miles of home. Anyone who has had a slide along the road will give the advice to wear decent clothing when riding, no matter what you are riding, scooter/125/big sportsbike or where you are riding, be it 1 mile up the road or a 300 mile trek.

If the reason you don't want to wear protective gear on your bike is because you don't want to wear it when you get off, then look at some of the lighter scooter orientated jackets, they are cordura and have some minimal armour in them. You'll find them light enough to wear off the bike, but give you some degree of protection on the bike.

https://www.hein-gericke.com/hg-shop/eurobike/eb_frameset.php
Have a browse around the hein-gericke site, you may find something you like.... some of the "blousons" may be what you are looking for.
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 09 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annabella wrote:
It really is a matter of choice if you don't wear protective clothing on your bike.

However, asking bikers, you would assume that the replies you get will be against this! Many of us have had accidents, and most of these are within 10 miles of home. Anyone who has had a slide along the road will give the advice to wear decent clothing when riding, no matter what you are riding, scooter/125/big sportsbike or where you are riding, be it 1 mile up the road or a 300 mile trek.

If the reason you don't want to wear protective gear on your bike is because you don't want to wear it when you get off, then look at some of the lighter scooter orientated jackets, they are cordura and have some minimal armour in them. You'll find them light enough to wear off the bike, but give you some degree of protection on the bike.


Well atleast someone can give a sound answer Annabella, i dont like the Nova its a car, im a biker.
I have had a accident, yes it hurt, yes i had gravel rash followed by iodine on a brillo pad, flashbacks and pains.
What do you care, im just trying to get by as a biker.

I know your all bikers, i ride a bike therefore i joined the forum, its only some of you who are against riders who cant afford all the proper kit and lessons, tests etc.
I have added it all together and its going to wipe me out, im taking my test early next year as ive started my lessons for full access.
I got a bit of cash for my birthday this month so im able to do some.

Demonic i have a very large orange and black bike jacket with armour which i wear from time to time but it retricts movement on and off of my bike, i call that a dedicated bike jacket, im in need of something lighter and also with protection.
Whats the problem?
If you knew my situation you would have thought about your post before you just abuse me.
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 09 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa127 wrote:
dainesefreak wrote:
Sorry, leathers for me. Why would I not wear a bike jacket when I'm riding?


I don’t really see why I’m a “chav moron” for wearing clothes on my bike.


I actually remember saying you were, correct me if I'm wrong. I merely expressed my preference to your question and responded in the appropriate context to your posts.

If you ask a question on a public forum or make a statement then expect to get answers. If they aren't what you want to hear because you already have some preconception of the correct answer then don't ask. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 09 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You really dont get it do you.
I get pissed off because some of you on here tell me to "be nice" and "Think before you post".
Im sorry if i asked in your opinion a stupid question, maybe i didnt explain it properly.
I need a jacket that isnt dedicated bike jacket but still gives some of the properties of such a jacket, minus the bulk and restriction.

Insted of getting a recommendation, i get cocky.


dainesefreak wrote:
Sorry, leathers for me. Why would I not wear a bike jacket when I'm riding?

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PostPosted: 12:36 - 09 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't give you any cock. Shocked

In fact I only said I couldn't help as I prefer leathers.

If you've got a bike jacket that's not comfortable then I would suggest that it doesn't fit correctly for you and the bike you ride. It's worth trying a jacket on with your helmet and bike.

If you're paying for lessons then it's worth paying for decent kit, one is as important as the next and both could save your life and my insurance premium.

The reason that you will get some abuse is in fact the cocky attitude you've shown in your own posts and that most of us have been there, seen it and heard it all before.

You say you've crashed in the past and had gravel rash, perhaps you could learn from a past mistake?? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 09 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can't afford new leathers then ebay can be a good place to look. I got a good fitting two piece suit in good condition for £77 which is cheaper than buying a new textile on its own. Just make sure you are sure of your size!

I agree that it is a personal choice but is it worth taking all the skin off or worse just cos you want to look fashionable?
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 09 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

dainesefreak wrote:
Sorry, leathers for me. Why would I not wear a bike jacket when I'm riding?


Nah mate i just say it how it is,
You and i both know Your reply translates "I can afford leathers i think its stupid you dont wear your bike jacket"

Thats cocky mate, i might be cocky in off topic chat but everyone else is, its not about biking, i wasnt being cocky asking about a jacket.
I learnt that accidents happen, and it hurts, i didnt say i'm "ard" and dont give a fuck mush chavie. Respecta.
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 09 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa127 wrote:
Look, each to his own yeah.


No not cocky at all.

At no point did I say anything about affording leathers, I merely pointed out the fact that I try to stay alive by wearing protective clothing, which as you should know is pointed out to you by every motorcycle training body at CBT level.

As for do I think it's stupid that you don't wear your bike jacket?

I think you've answered that for yourself;

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I have had a accident, yes it hurt, yes i had gravel rash followed by iodine on a brillo pad, flashbacks and pains.


With increasing government pressure on biking we have to take responsibility for ourselves. You might not want to help yourself to stay alive, but rising biker casualty statistics will force us off the roads and that I find unacceptable.
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 09 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what am i ment to do then eh? stop riding bikes.
Everyline you type everything you say is fuking cocky, what you playing at?

Its not an opinion your giving at all thats why its offensive, dont try and blag out of it, you were taking the pee.

I said "each to his own" because you took the piss, as an experienced biker you have seen all the clothing people ride, just get used ot it and stop trying grow a brain.

It wasnt my fault i crashed a woman pulled out in front of me, i crashed with a jacket i used to have obviously cant use it now.
It wasnt a dedicated bike jacket but it saved my skin.
I had boots on, also not dedicated bike ones.

You dont accept any of this because you like being Mr.right.
You hate 125's when some people actually have to ride them due to the law.
Becaue i ride differently to you does not mean im a chav does it.
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 09 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You thinking about me there Killa? Leathers are cheap as fuck. As are textiles. I wear my leather jacket when I'm off the bike, it's no problem at all. You just wanna wear your poser Sonetti jacket so all the other 16 yo's will think your cool. What you gonna do when you pass your DAS? Jump on an R1 with no leathers? Wouldn't doubt it for a sec.
My opinion is that if you can't be arsed to do it properly, don't fucking bother. I had my leathers ordered before I even owned my NSR. I got a loan to pay for the lot, where'd you get the money for your Mito? What you gonna do when you do pass for money?
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 09 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killa, I think you are over reacting a little. That is not at all how I read DaineseFreaks posts.

I saw it as him asking why, if you have a dedicated jacket do you choose not to wear it, as he, personally would wear it all the time. He was also saying, as you have experienced the pain of loosing flesh and skin due to not wearing the gear that is there to help you, why do you want to risk going through that again?

I don't think he was being cocky, I just don't think he expressed the opinion you wanted to hear.

This doesn't need to turn into a full scale arguement because one biker to another recommends wearing anything you have that will save your skin.

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PostPosted: 14:25 - 09 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

No i wouldnt over react but he makes shit up.
He basically tells me who i am and why i wear it, i dont take the piss out of him because my opinion is he has a shit bike.

My Sonneti jacket is plain black and doest look that nice thats why i wear it on my bike.
I could never change what he thinks i know, but why not just sit there and there and think about it himself and let others answer the question as they have done.
I cant belive someone who thinks so highly of their intellect comments on my bike and what i wear means im young and a chav.
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 09 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Anna, I thought I'd lost the plot there too.

Damn me for being a newbie 125 hater eh! Shocked Rolling Eyes


Killa - Whilst we are on the subject, could you point out my hatred? I seem to have mislaid the post.

You really just don't get it do you.

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I couldn't careless what you personally wear on your bike or about you at all. What I do care about is enforced blanket legislation because of a minority of riders.

Personal responsibility.
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