Broken Pillion

jay12329 · Dr. Evil Joined: 02 May 2003 Karma :

My brother has broken his leg so he cant drive. He has sugested that i could take him out this afternoon on the bike as i am heading where he wants to go.
How will having a guy in plaster on the back affect the bike? I dont think his leg will bend enough to get on the foot peg. Will this cause problems?
J

nc30 chick · Traffic Copper Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Karma :

Dont ride too close to the curb, that unsuspecting pedestrian might get a surprise! Shocked

Minky_monkey · Traffic Copper Joined: 01 Aug 2004 Karma :

Watch out for lampposts and width restrictions too..... Laughing

skyline · Scooby Slapper Joined: 20 May 2004 Karma :

lol, hey at least the guys already got a decent form of protection on his leg if you come of Razz

ive come off my bike and had my leg in plaster now and i cant achully ride my bike anymore but its only down to the fact i cant bend my leg far enough to fit onto the damn peg, so thats what it will come down to, if he can bend his knee enough to fit on the peg he'll be fine if not then i wouldnt take him on it lol

stryker · Brolly Dolly Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Karma :

Good Lord! So he has a bone which is broken, only held in place by some plaster, and you want to take him on a bike, with all its jolts and vibrations...... euugh, thoughts of bone-ends grinding together come to mind.

You have to be winding us up asking this surely?
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89CBRChris · Scooby Slapper Joined: 14 Jul 2004 Karma :

I could be wrong here but as far as I know if the pillion cannot get his feet on both rear pegs then you are not legally allowed to take him on the bike.

I believe this is so that young kids who cannot reach the pegs cannot be taken on the bike and works as a sort of age restriction based on height.

zx636 · Scooby Slapper Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Karma :

89CBRChris got it in one.

I would imagine if you had an accident the insurance company would not pay out, they dont need much of an excuse at the best of times.

askew · Scooby Slapper Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Karma :

*Shudder* Can you imagine the pain! If you had to do anything quickly, such as braking, leaning or pulling away, surely your pillion is going to be screaming in pain!

I should imagine If any copper was on the broken leg-side of your bike they wouldn't be too happy. What would be even more annoying is if there was one of those 'Police, Camara, Action' type crews. You'd be the laughing stock of the nation. Smile

If you ask me, I'd vote in the direction of bad idea.
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jay12329 · Dr. Evil Joined: 02 May 2003 Karma :

It worked. We cut a small 'C' shaped section out of the back of the plaster so he could bend his leg and get it on the peg.
His crutches went in my hockey stick bag with enough sticking out the top so you could see what they were!
He got my winter weather gear on over the plaster too!
So in conclusion, it is possible to take a pillion with a broken leg on the bike, and it isn’t to painful if your smooth. Even speed bumps were ok!
J

jonboy · Trackday Trickster Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Karma :

Does that rather not defeat the idea of a plaster?!

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Errm, if your brother can't easily sit on the pillion seat with his cast on then it suggests that going pillion isn't possible, cutting bits of his cast defeats the whole point of him having a cast, the idea is that everything stays in the right place for it to heal correctly, start poking around with it at home and making modifactions to allow it to bend is a good way to fuck up the healing.

Also, if you were to be involved in an accident someone with an already broken leg is likely to get fairly nasty injuries. Firstly he won't be able to get his bike kit on, so could expect some nice injuries to his ankle if you had a crash, I don't think they put the cast on intending it to be able to withstand a motorcycle crash so if he hit his leg on something then the cast would dig in.

He'd be much better off getting the bus as what he is doing to go on a bike is going to be fucking up his leg further, he needs to take the bus, go in a car or hobble. Thumbs Up

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jay12329 · Dr. Evil Joined: 02 May 2003 Karma :

The cast only comes up to jsut below his knee, the only modification is the removal of a small section so the top of the cast doesn't dig into his leg when bent.
J

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jay12329 · Dr. Evil Joined: 02 May 2003 Karma :

I was more going for the two up cripple KD. Laughing

J

Fallen Angel · Franny the Nanny Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Karma :

I agree with Korn, if it's a bone in his lower leg, there should be no problem!

Why didn't you say that in the first place Jay!!! Rolling Eyes

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jonboy · Trackday Trickster Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Karma :

If they put an above knee cast on, it would be because the fracture is not stable with a below knee one. The principle of fracture splinting is that the joint above and below the fracture need to be immobilised. No one would apply an above knee cast unnecessarily due to the risk of prolonged knee immobilisation such as deep vein thrombosis.
Unless of course they f*cked up, which is always possible Whistle

But you risk the fracture healing badly by messing with the cast like that.

mchaggis · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 May 2004 Karma :

jonboy · Trackday Trickster Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Karma :

The fracture in your diagram on the left will not stabilise the fracture properly - there will be too much slack in the plaster on the short bit of upper calf it has to purchase on and the cast will be able to twist aroud the long axis of the lower leg.
Immobilising both upper and lower joints is a well established principle.

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jonboy · Trackday Trickster Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Karma :

But they would only apply them for fractures around the ankle, not mid to upper tibial fractures as shown in your diagram.
It all depends on where the fracture is and noone would apply an above knee cast unless absolutely necessary.
They're a pain in the arse to apply, medical reasons aside.

jonboy · Trackday Trickster Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Karma :

Though actually rereading his post it doesn't say anywhere he had an above knee cast, so you could well be right Embarassed

jay12329 · Dr. Evil Joined: 02 May 2003 Karma :

The cast come to jsut below the knee but it restricts movement by digging into the back of the leg as shown in the diagram.
J

jonboy · Trackday Trickster Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Karma :

In which case you should be just fine Thumbs Up