seatbelts in sidecars

[b1k3rwaif]

me and my wife are looking to campaign to make seatbelts and helmets compulsary in sidecars with training for all new owners before going on the road .
we don't want to exclude any-one from riding and enjoying themselves just to be safe and trained for every aspect of riding.
all replies will be welcome or pm me for more details.

[mchaggis]

Seatbelts, fine. Helmets? What for? Who falls out of their sidecar onto their head?
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[MarJay]

I'm very confused.

There are so few sidecars on the road that this would only serve to alienate those people who have such a vehicle and use it in a law abiding and safe manner.

You hardly get hooligans riding Ariel square four outfits do you?

It just sounds like another campaign to ban something that doesn't need banning/ make something compulsory that doesn't need making compulsory.

Why not ban horseboxes? Or make gloves compulsory when riding bikes?

Not being funny, but to an objective observer who has no real interest in the subject of sidecars and their waning popularity, it sounds almost like you are looking for something to campaign against.

More people are killed by fireworks and diesel spills each year than people injured in sidecar accidents. As I said earlier, when was the last time you saw a sidecar outfit on the road?

Not wanting to rain on your parade, but you did ask for opinions and I do not wish to cause offense. I'm just telling it how I see it.


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[instigator]

Sorry, but I totally agree with Marjay here.

Are you only doing this after eharing of an awful incident where a helmet or seatbelt could have saved someone's life?

[Ste]

I agree in principle in regards to helmets, but not in practise. If someone wants to ride a bike with a side car or just a normal bike whilst not wearing a helmet then they are quite aware of what could happen. Yes I consider it fairly daft to ride around without a helemt on a bike or using a trike/side car, but if people want to then thats up to them and not anyone else.

There are lots of other things safety campaginers could work on, like gloves as MarJay says would be a far more sensible rule IMO.

I can see a seatbelt causing injury in a side car as yes it will stop them being thrown away from the sidecar but being kept in something as flimsey as a sidecar in a crash is hardly a safe place to be.

Training? It is basically a bike which is slightly wider so there isn't really any need for training as all it would be is "right, this as you well know is a motorcycle with a side car, it is exactly the same to ride as a normal motorcycle apart from it is wider (as you can see easily) and won't corner in the same way. I hope this lesson has been helpful, next weeks lesson is going to cover the safest way to tie your own shoe laces, another essential lesson from the safety nazis."

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[stinkwheel]

Seen the same thread elsewhere, posting the same reply:

[stryker]

b1k3rwaif, why don't you join A.S.H, they are always looking for new killjoy recruits to help ruin everybody's day.

OH and FWIW, I'd not want to be strapped down into a sidecar, just the same as I'd not want to be strapped down onto my trike or bike!
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[TheShaggyDA]

If you are looking to alienate yourself, why not choose something with a wider audience - maybe campaign for seatbelts on buses and trains?
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