Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


Wet/greasy roads

Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

mrchips
World Chat Champion



Joined: 05 Mar 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:18 - 10 Dec 2004    Post subject: Wet/greasy roads Reply with quote

My tyres are crap in the wet so I've never really had much confidence in wet corners. Decided to test it today on a roundabout and as expected the back end slid out a bit. Is there any way to take the corners slightly quicker without the back end sliding about? I'm talking about roundabouts that could easily be taken at 45 which 25 is really too much for them.
____________________
Northern Irish? www.nibikers.com
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Rory
Traffic Copper



Joined: 14 May 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:28 - 10 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure you want to? Wet roads can be ridden pretty quickly with good observation, planning, and optionally hanging off the bike a wee bit.

Greasy roads are a far less pleasant proposition. I'd prefer it to be lashing down, as least the surface would be cleaner! You'll just kick yourself if you came off while trying to go "a bit quicker" on greasy roads.
____________________
My Old CBR400RR | Bike Oil FAQ | Petrol FAQ
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

mrchips
World Chat Champion



Joined: 05 Mar 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:36 - 10 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking back at the post I think it was more damp/greasy today.
____________________
Northern Irish? www.nibikers.com
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Barker-CBR 600
Could Be A Chat Bot



Joined: 20 Nov 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:43 - 10 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always been told you can always lean further than you think you can on modern rubber before the battle with Sir Isaac begins to go badly.

If you got good counter steering, nice positioning on the road (not too much leeway on a roundabout) and nice balanced throttle then i cant see much way of doing it.

Turn tighter and get upright earlier so you can put on the acceleration earlier perhaps? but probably not going to make a huge deal of difference, but might feel faster.

Yeah its not worth it in my opinion, i would hate to know that i could have avoided a spill if i hadnt tried to go that extra bit.
____________________
Previous - Gilera DNA50 / XVS125 Dragstar/Honda CBR 600F/GSF 650 Bandit
Current - 2013 Suzuki VZ800 Intruder
'Is this a rhetorical question?'
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Git
Brolly Dolly



Joined: 17 Dec 2003
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:44 - 10 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't bother trying to go faster, not this time of year anyway, you want to see christmas yeah?

Being smooth is the key, greasy, cold, wet, dirty roads Thumbs Down
Just plod along at a speed you are comfy with is my wise words for the day.

Probably not quiet what you wanted to hear but I would not like another post of a tarmac incident from anyone.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Rory
Traffic Copper



Joined: 14 May 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 19:08 - 10 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

The upside is that if you can ride smoothly and consistently on pish roads, your good-weather riding will also improve Karma
____________________
My Old CBR400RR | Bike Oil FAQ | Petrol FAQ
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

mchaggis
World Chat Champion



Joined: 09 May 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 19:19 - 10 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, with tyres made by the Fuk Yu rubber company (who originally produced that one, Keith?), my back end is all over the place on these roads. It's when the front slides that you really need to be worried. It's all good practise though.
____________________
I must not be a troll...
Mmmm, Guinness
Discovering the delights of Hammerite and a 3/4" brush. Very Happy
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

stinkwheel
Bovine Proctologist



Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 02:56 - 11 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your tyres are shit in the wet and you intend to ride the bike in the winter, get different ones. ffs people it is not rocket science!

You are not wasting good tyres, you can store the other ones somewhere and have them put back on in the summer. They are arguably the most important part of the bike, being the thing that keeps you on the road. Would you tolerate brakes that didn't work in the wet? (riders of Brit and communist bikes with drums need not answer that question Wink )
____________________
“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

mattsmith95
Traffic Copper



Joined: 03 Oct 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:35 - 11 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm very fussy with tyres, I have to be because of my job and the
hours I put in. I tried a pireli city demon on my CB250 but after a
week I went back and changed it for a Bridgestone BT45. The city
demon was utter crap, I didn't feel safe. When it comes to tyres,
I don't care about the price of the tyres.

If you have crap tyres, CHANGE THEM!!
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

JonB
Afraid of Mileage



Joined: 03 Jun 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:42 - 11 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm absolutely gobsmacked, you can actually get Bridgestone tyres for my ped. WTF. Surprised
____________________
Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

TheShaggyDA
Repost Police



Joined: 14 Jun 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 11:06 - 11 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Would you tolerate brakes that didn't work in the wet? (riders of Brit and communist bikes with drums need not answer that question Wink )


Aye, the Enfield has very similar wet and dry characteristics when it comes to braking. As for the tyres, the ol' Dunlop Ditchfinders are quite happy, even in the greasy conditions. It's not as though I'm trying to powerslide out of corners Smile
____________________
Current: CB500 Previous: CB100N, CB250RS, XJ900F, GT550, GPZ750R/1000RX, AJS M16, R100RT, Enfield Bullet

[i:6e3bfc7581]But still I fear and still I dare not laugh at the madman...[/i:6e3bfc7581]
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

binge
Emo Kiddy



Joined: 02 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:14 - 11 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeh, theres a place up my way "Watling tyres" who do bridgestone tyres (140 width) for £35 and free fitting...

Unfortionatly ive already got 2 very new tyres on atm, they are cheap tyres (£30 each) but they are Extremely stickey and the rear tyre grips the road like glue Smile Which is nice and safe for the winter...

<|Binge|>
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

mchaggis
World Chat Champion



Joined: 09 May 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:19 - 11 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the tyres seem fine if it's just wet*, or dry, it's the nasty mucky greasy roads they seem to suffer most on.

*Having said that, one of my lowsides was on a wet roundabout, though that was probably being inexperienced and using the front brake.

Maybe I should find some better tubed tyres then, though I might have to wait till my next loan installment. Smile Who makes decent tubed tyres? I can't remember the sizes atm, I'll put them up later.
____________________
I must not be a troll...
Mmmm, Guinness
Discovering the delights of Hammerite and a 3/4" brush. Very Happy
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

stinkwheel
Bovine Proctologist



Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:50 - 11 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am getting myself a pair of thes bad boys. Avon Distanzia semi-knobs with azaro compound rubber Mr. Green

https://www.avonmotorcycle.com/us/en/images/tyrepictures/AM44-Distanzia.jpg

They will fit on a bandit or SV650 too, but I don't know what they would be like on a road bike.

The pirelli MT60 square knob corsa compound tyres are pretty good too, I have run off onto the sidewall of them before now but at £200 a pair and 2000 miles tops out of a rear, they are an expensive toy!
____________________
“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

stinkwheel
Bovine Proctologist



Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:55 - 11 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchaggis wrote:

Maybe I should find some better tubed tyres then, though I might have to wait till my next loan installment. Smile Who makes decent tubed tyres? I can't remember the sizes atm, I'll put them up later.


You can use tubeless tyres with a tube in them no problem providing you get a slightly higher speed rating than your bike needs. They warm up more quickly with a tube in, not really an issue unless you are into the 100s of bhp though.
____________________
“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts
Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 21 years, 84 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 

Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.07 Sec - Server Load: 1.24 - MySQL Queries: 14 - Page Size: 88.85 Kb