Forks :(

[innominate]

Honda CB500, 2002
Think this may be caused by crash damage.


My right hand fork was pissing oil.
So I got the fork seals changed in a local garage.

Was fine for about 3 days then started pissing oil again.
Left hand one is fine.

Now not knowingmuch about the internals of forks, I am summising that the inside of the right hand fork must be very slightly bent (the garage not icking up on it at the time)

Basically I need some advise on how to fix it.
Probably new forks


& If I do need new ones, how much(ish)?, Breakers be the best place?, Is there anywhere that does aftermarket forks I could put on instead?

Cheers
inno
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[mr jamez]

If the stanchion is bent, you can remove it from the fork assembly and get it straightened. If the seals were put in correctly, and it started leaking right after then it is very likely that the stanchion is bent or the forks are twisted slightly.

Perhaps take it to a place where you can get them checked out.

https://www.allbikeengineering.co.uk/html/forks.html might be of use.

Of course a complete set off forks from a breakers is another option.

[Ste]

Probably cheapest and easiest to get a complete set from a breakers, have a search on UK Biker Used Part Search and Part Locator or have a look through this small list of breakers and call around a few.

[innominate]

Contancted used parts search.

What price do you think I will have to pay , ish?
for a full set of forks??
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[Rob W]

I bent the forks on my TS, took the stanchion off and managed to get it straightened at an engineering firm near me, cost me £20
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[innominate]

[mr jamez]

Yes you would need to remove all the components from the old stanchion, bushings, fork piston etc and put them on the new one. This isn't that difficult to do, though there my be worn parts that need replacing.

Seeing as it is a honda, give www.davidsilverspares.co.uk a call, discounted honda parts, they sell stanchions cheaper than ABE. They also do complete fork assemblies, so if it was only one side it may be easier to do this. It was £70 per side for my bike, and that is everything, assembled from the factory including seals and oil.

[innominate]

So

Let me get this right.

I order some new fork tubes from wherever.



Take the old ones out of the fork bottoms, transfer all bits onto the new tubes (assuming nothing worn out). Then reattach to the bike & hopefully everything is fixed...

Btw is stantchion the same as fork tube?
My Haynes Bible does not mention a Stantchion, i u may have guessed I am a mechanic n00b
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[mr jamez]

Yes stanchion and fork tube are the same thing, and this will work providing you put it all back right

David silver spares quoted me £55 for a single stanchion, and £70 for a complete fork leg assembly, so remember to give them a call

[innominate]

Ok, Ok, OK


Got all the bits.
Have taken the forks off the bike and have dismatled.

I had to file off the end of the old fork tubes (With a hand file) to get at the internal fork shuttle.


Now before I put them all back together I am gona need to make sure that ALL of the metal filings that fell into the shuttle are removed. Whats the best way to do this?

Cani just rinse under the tap then spray with copious amounts of WD40 ?


Or is there some other way that will work better...



Cheers for replys.
Having lunch now as knackered from all the hand filing
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[stinkwheel]

I often blast things like that out with a pressure washer then immediatley dry and oil them. Repeatedly swilling out with a solvent such as paraffin is also a possibility (but keep it away from any rubber bits)

If the filings are ferrous metal and the bit you are cleaning is alloy, a strong magnet can work wonders.

EDIT: play dough or blue-tak pressed into any little corners does a very good job of picking up any little bits of swarrf
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[innominate]

OK sorted.

Now how the hell do I get the oil seals to go in.
They just seem to get stuck on an angle every single time

Gonna try get some plastic piping a little bigger than the fork tube.
And hit it with hammer till the seal drops into place

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[Ste]

If you've still got them to hand you can put the old seals onto of the new ones to hit with hammer type thing.

[innominate]

Yer tried that.
The old ones get stuck in ontop of the new ones, then I carnt get the old ones out without completely dismatling the fork again
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[innominate]

RIGHT...

Still trying to get these bloody oil seals in...
They keep getting stuck about 5mm above where they are supposed to sit. So I cannot fit the oil seal retaining clip & finish building the rest of the fork.
Are they normally this hard to get in??


Tried greasing them slightly.
Tried pouring boiling water on the fork bottom.
Encased the fork tube in a plastic tube and have repeatedly hit the plastic tube with a hammer in an attempt to drive the seal into place.
Also tried turning the fork upside down and bashing it on the floor , well bashing the plastic tubearound the fork.

Doesanyone have any other ideas at all???
Or I am gonna be stuck& have to get the train into work over xmas


Any help , much apperciated...






YEY
Done it.
Just required getting rid of the grease on the top brush that I think was causing an airlock under the oil seal. Then bashing repeatedly with a hammer. Then Voila, straight in.

Only took 8 hours all together with a lot of swearing :o
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