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mr.z
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 21 Dec 2004    Post subject: Soilder alternative? Reply with quote

Is there any way to solder electrics without useing a soldering iron of any kind? some sort of metal to join contacts that can just be put straight on after activateing it in some way then goes solid? sort of like steel putty? (is that stuff actually metal based?)

I know idealy you'd use solder and scotchlocks can be used for wires, but just say you dont have a butane soldering iron in your toolkit but have a space for some magic paste/material to do its job..
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 21 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are you trying to solder?

A lot of crimp-on terminals don't really need to be soldered, especially if you shrink-wrap/insulate them afterwards. You will find that most of the bullet connectors on your bike are not soldered. These are they:

50x bullet connectors = £1.50+VAT
50x insulation for bullet = 71p +VAT
50x socket for bullet = £1.49 +VAT
50x Insulation for socket = £1.03 +VAT
Cheapest crimping tool = £3.73 +VAT
TOTAL = £9.94 including VAT

Or you get a kit with an assortment of different terminals (x150 with insulation of the Japanese bullet type) and a slightly better crimping tool for £19.07 +VAT. Essential equipment for any DIY wiring IMO. (part number N9MJ)

From https://www.vehiclewiringproducts.co.uk

edit: I usually crimp then flow solder into the joint after it has been crimped, but this is not strictly necessary. It just makes me feel better about it, some would say you run the risk of getting a 'dry joint' by doing this and are better not soldering at-all.
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 21 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I usually crimp then flow solder into the joint after it has been crimped, but this is not strictly necessary. It just makes me feel better about it, some would say you run the risk of getting a 'dry joint' by doing this and are better not soldering at-all.


I find soldering the strongest and easiest method of joining wires. Dry-joints are almost unheard of, but can cause a problem if they happen. I do this by habbit now, but used to just twist wires together then tape them, which often did the job for quite a while.
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 22 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can buy "cold solder" paste. Not used it myself as you simply cannot beat soldering those joints.
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 22 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

The cold solder paste you speak of, if it's the same kind of thing I use it comes as a thick paste that is applied to tin and clean the surfaces before the application of proper solder, the paste needs heating with a gas torch so the transformation takes place from thick liquid to solder coating, never used it on wiring just copper pipes.
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 22 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I know is it was recommended for wiring solar panels.

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mr.z
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 23 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bizzarely i live about 3miles from VehacleWireingProducts, handy Wink

I wasn't wanting to solder anything in particular, jut wondered if there was anything not dependant of heat to get it going..

Suppose i should get myself a new(less crap) soldering iron, how much would a decent(not too expensive but good) priced butane soldering iron cost? am i right in thinking these can be refilled from zippolighter gas refill cans?
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 23 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, you can get gas soldering irons, but not petrol.

Maplin do them for about £1.99 or pay £9.99 for a decent one, one that can actually keep the tip hot when solder is on it.
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