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mr.z
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PostPosted: 02:16 - 27 Dec 2004    Post subject: Heated clothing.... Reply with quote

My zip thermometer was showing 0°C, wind chill factor equivilent to -29°C@40mph haveing to scrape the ice off my seat first should have been a clue that it was going to be a cold ride, and the clocks, mirrors and handlebar grips...

I had some heated grips on the cx, they were o.k. but didn't provide a completely warm hands by any means, usualy a burning palm and freezeing fingers Sad they are ok if its a bit cold but lacking when it gets this bad...

So, decided that its time for some heated gloves!

Ive seen some for £60 (klan) these are glove liners, get the feeling they will be a fiddley pita, but sure i'll be able to put in some in coat wireing so it dosent all have to be removed when its taken off, plug and controller on the space on the faring, sorted!

Otherwise they do some actual gloves for £99, but if they get a bit worn out then i'm gonn have to chuck them, the liners can be used with any gloves later on down the line...

Klan are the only make ive heared of, apparently very good, has anyone got any? tryed any? know of anywhere to get them (midlands if possible) any other makes woth looking for?

Take care all, watch out for the shiney bits of road!
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PostPosted: 02:19 - 27 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had some heated glove liner things, they were a pain in the arse, uncomfortable and burnt my hand.. I gave them to Danny for free Laughing no idea if he's had much luck with them or not?

But I wouldn't reccomend them at all Confused
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PostPosted: 02:25 - 27 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.survivalskills.clara.net/riding_skills_39.htm recommends a heated waistcoat. A bit pricey at £100+ though.
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PostPosted: 02:29 - 27 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've ben looking for some really reliable warm clothing for my girlfriend for years, mainly due to her disability.

If her legs get cold, the tendons spasm and knot themselves. Walking down the road in thermal longjohns, jeans and leather jeans is not enough, so as you can imagine, getting on a bike, even in summer, is just not an option.

The best material seems to be neoprene, but I'm still reasearching all the options.

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PostPosted: 02:34 - 27 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been doing the old british "grin and bare it"

But now really want some heated grips or something!
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PostPosted: 03:28 - 27 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodsi wrote:
I have been doing the old british "grin and bare it"


That approach will be likely to get you in an avoidable accident. When it gets to the point that you can't feel your fingers, you definately aren't safe to ride. When I was riding back from uni in a temperature of about 2 degrees above freezing, I managed about 35-40 minutes before my hands were lacking all feeling again and I stopped each time in a layby, took my outer gloves off and rubbed my hands together until the circulation returned and I had the feeling back.

Nevertheless, I did the last five miles without stopping when I should have done, and I couldn't get above 35 or so, as it was dark, I couldn't feel the pressure I was using on my brakes, and I could barely feel the throttle. All much badness.

If in doubt, stop and warm up. You are losing body core heat which will make you colder overall, but you need the feeling in your hands or you just won't be safe if you need to brake suddenly.
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PostPosted: 03:32 - 27 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep engines I have found to be usefull

Lay your gloves on your exhaust and put your hands on your engine casing!

Warm hands into warm gloves.

Also I hear that engines are a good form of propulsion too!
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 27 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodsi wrote:
Also I hear that engines are a good form of propulsion too!


...perhaps i'll replace my rubber band with one of these new fanged "engines"

As for keeping warm, I tend to put as many layers on as possible! Have been known to have 3 pairs of socks, 4 pairs of trousers, and 5 tops! Followed by neckwarmer and balaclava! If you keep you're actual body warm, then your hands, face etc will also stay warm for a time!

Have just recieved some glove/mitten things that keep two fingers together (still giving you the ability to pull the levers while having some fingers on the handlebars)... but the added wamth of having fingers together! Also have a balaclava which keeps you warm... however leaves you looking like the newest member of Al-Quada!

A flask of coffee does wonders too!

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PostPosted: 13:22 - 27 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

The being cold dosent bother me, but when your hands just plain hurt its not helping concnetration! Sad

Was wearing a hein gericke textile coat (for the last two years) with the thermal inner bit zipped in and was perfectly fine there, my legs were pretty damn cold (because i was wearing combats at the time Rolling Eyes) hein gericke engineer boots still had warm feet.. oh and thanks to my devistateingly sexy windproof bablaclava my head was warm too ... just me hands :/

I'd put in a variable controller for the gloves, can't be doing with full on or full off, mr grips would have been evil on full blast all the time, if the gloves were anywhere near as hot as my grips were i'm not supprised they got uncomfortable yams Shocked

Ive got a ride/bike article where they threw ice cold water on riders and got the to go arround a course, they also got one to get drunk and see what happened... allarmingly the cold riders performed quite a bit WORSE than the drunk rider...
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 27 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put a thin pair of gloves on underneath your winter gloves, warm them both on the exhaust prior.

Try a hot water bottle inside your jacket? Ive heard it works quite well. Put it on your innermost layer obviouslly.

When im at lights i often reach down and put my hands on the exhaust headers or engine case to warm them a smidge (warms the leather up).
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 27 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

being riding to work these last two days, and the morning rides are hell for my fingers.

i wear a thermal gloves underneath, and it seem pointless. Was thinking of getting some heated grips, but after what i read, seem abit expensive to warm up palms and not fingers.

Will try out different thermals instead i think.

Zero, thanks. Will look into them.


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PostPosted: 14:35 - 27 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

buddha - go to a motox shop and get some brush guards, they will keep allot of wind off your hands and make it easyer to cope with Very Happy the grips are good, but they are not going to completely keep your hands warn, usefull of nippy days, but when its really bad they aren't all that good...

loply - yeh ive got some thermal lineing gloves too, also have some warm pack things but hadn't re-charged them :/ could have taped them to my fingers i supose Very Happy

Depending on your bike you can get a rag and stuff it behind the engine, you can use ti to warm your hands up when you get off and to check your oil Wink
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 27 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got some of the Klan heated inner gloves. They work well, no problems and aren't overly fiddly. They connect straight to the battery terminals and have to waterproof connectors with an on/off switch in the middle that can be bypassed if you wish.

Make sure your gloves are slightly loose so that they fit correctly.

I've had the Oxford Hothands velcro grips before and these are much better, your hands don't go cold as soon as you take them off the grips and they aren't as bulky.

It takes me probably between 3-5 mins longer to get sorted and ride away.
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 28 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know I've said this before, and I know the things take some getting used to to ride with but I cannot stress enough just how much difference even a cheap set (£10 or less) set of handlebar muffs makes. They make heated grips more viable (less of the burning palm freezing fingers issue) and even with no other form of heating they make a decent set of gloves more than adequate for almost any weather.
Believe me, in fifteen years of riding 5-6 days a week I've tried just about every conceivable means of keeping warm Wink

Born2bvile, neoprene is extremely good for retaining heat. I used to use an old pair of ski salopets under my leathers in the depths of winter. Hope your other half finds something that benefits her Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 28 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodsi wrote:

Lay your gloves on your exhaust and put your hands on your engine casing!


Yeah..I do this a lot too if on a long ride. Thumbs Up

My Fiance bought me a great thing for Christmas too !
It is a Hand Warmer from a place called 'Hawkins Bazaar'.
They have a catalogue, website and a shop here in Coventry.

It is a plastic heart about the size of your hand, filled with clear liquid. Inside there is a metal disc which you click backwards and forwards twice... THEN the liquid solidifies and GREAT heat comes off it for 30 minutes !!
Great for that pit-stop..and then you can slip it into your jacket, etc... Mr. Green Thumbs Up
Cheap too I think...buy a couple.

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PostPosted: 12:30 - 28 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Born2bVile wrote:

The best material seems to be neoprene, but I'm still reasearching all the options.


Neoprene actually isn't very warm unless it is wet, then it comes into its own as it retains and warms a layer of water next to the skin. There are some excellent items produced for climbers which might be a fair bit warmer than neoprene, if you want to you can PM me or post your girlfriend's requirements here and I might know of something available (I used to manage an outdoor/climbing shop).
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 28 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, theres a Hawkins Bazaar down here in Southampton too - was a superb source for most of my xmas pressies!

I'll go in and have a look at getting a few of those hand warmers.. are they rechargable or single use?

Cheers

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PostPosted: 19:23 - 28 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craggles wrote:
Yeah, theres a Hawkins Bazaar down here in Southampton too - was a superb source for most of my xmas pressies!

I'll go in and have a look at getting a few of those hand warmers.. are they rechargable or single use?

Cheers

Craig


They are re-usable...after using to heat..you heat them up in boiling water (wrapped in a cloth) to re-liquify the insides..then you can re-heat by simply 'clicking' again Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 28 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yams wrote:
I had some heated glove liner things, they were a pain in the arse, uncomfortable and burnt my hand.. I gave them to Danny for free Laughing no idea if he's had much luck with them or not?

But I wouldn't reccomend them at all Confused


On yes I remember, oh did I laugh at your expense and pain Laughing
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