Derestricting then restricting a scooter

[superchoward]

Derestricted my scoot a couple of months ago and got in a crash about 3 weeks ago. Fixed my scooter but was made to promise mother not to break the law again. I did this because she said she wouldn't let me keep scoot otherwise. So i though i better restrict my scoot again or else i will get disowned by mother and father if something happened. I did it today and did exactly the same thing as i did when i first took it off. I had only derestricted the variator. So i put the washer back on, went on scoot and it now will only go 18mph . I don't know why because i have put everything back as it was. It sounds like it is screaming its tits off when im going 18mph and as if it is going to blow up. Can anyone give me any ideas of how to fix this please.

Chris

[Ste]

Don't tell them that it's de-restricted in the first place.

[binge]

Thats what I said chris...

Alsong as you aint a fucking twat on it, You aint gona come off again...

The reason its slower is because when you first Derestrict a scooter, they do like 50, and within a week of being thrashed (Like kids do when they get it derestricted) they go about 45mph...

You have thrashed the bollocks off the scooter by the sounds of it and I remember you told me that it did 45 and after a week it would only do 40..

So restricted again it will only do 25 wont it you numpty!
Take the bloody restrictor out and dont tell mom and dad. Aslong as you learn not to ride through public footpaths and then crash into PARKED cars which are on the ROAD. Then they arent goan find out its derestricted...

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[superchoward]

It wasnt bloody parked. My luck is unbelievable. It doesnt go 25 though, it goes 18. It sounds like im going to have to derestrict it. You dont understand, if mother finds out she will go bloody ballistic. My Dad uses it sometimes also though so there isnt any way i can keep it from him.
When you say Ben that most people rag it when they first derestrict it, well i went to Liverpool on it which i think is about 60 miles away from me and then 60 miles back all at 45-50mph
Is that why it is going so slow? Because it has been derestricted then restricted again?
Oh well, i will derestrict it and see how it goes.
Cheers guys

Chris

[mr jamez]

Perhaps you should explain to your mum how dangerous being limited to 18mph is?

[simon1221]

i agree, i see some scooters goin 20mph in a 40mph zone, sometimes on an open road, so dangerous and they are really invisible and difficult to see at night
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[superchoward]

Yeah i understand the dangers of 18mph. I will tell her i think and see what she says. It is my scooter, my driving licence, i will get the points on it, i will pay the fines etc so im just gonna explain that to her and im not a kid etc. If she says it s illegal i will say police dont care anyway, after all, the first night i derestricted it i got pulled by police with my mate doing 45 and all the police did was stop him for no L's. I was bloody shitting my pants aswell.
Ill let you know
Is there any way of actually fixing the problem though?

Chris

[Ste]

At the age of 16 you can ride something with an engine not bigger than 50cc and not capable of more than 50kmph (about 31mph). Link to DSA site confirming that.

If your ped won't do more than 18mph, you de-restricting it is not illegal unless it as a result does more than 50kmph.

You can't really be too suprised if parents don't like it if you start telling them about how you're riding without a license, without a license, and how you and your mates get stopped by the police. There really isn't any need to tell them all that as all they'll then do is hassle you as you're now finding out.

You've re-restricted it havn't you? No further discussions with your parents on the subjest unless you like ear ache.

[superchoward]

Yeah i re restricted it today and it does 18mph. Which isnt safe or acceptable really. I think i would prefer it if i told mother as she is quite reasonable sometimes. Also i dont like lying as i am rather bad at it and feel very guilty.
Just a question Ste, can you ride your bike yet after that nasty crash i read about that happened way back in march or around then?

Chris

[Ste]

Be worth trying to work out and fix whatever it is which is making it not go faster than 18mph because as has been said it's not really very safe. (I really am stating the obvious aren't I )

Can't ride yet, the DVLA medical people have my license.

[superchoward]

I would prefer to find out why it is only going 18mph and then fix it so it goes 30ish. I have no idea what it is though that could be causing this. I did exactly the same as what i did when i took it off, only in reverse. So i dont know of anything which could possible cause this. I only ran it for about a mile after re restricting it, do you think it will make a difference as time goes on? It is strange i think becuase it sounds as if it is revving a lot higher than it ever has but it just isnt moving, as if the belt is slipping or something. Could the belt have been stretched at higher speeds or something. My mate said when he was putting the belt back on it didnt feel any different though. I am gonna take it apart tomorrow night and see if anything is obviously wrong. If i cant see anything then i will derestrict it and tell mother me thinks.
Any ideas guys?
When can you ride again Ste do you know?

Muchos Gracias
Chris

[Ste]

It does sound like something fairly simple like a belt slipping as it was working fine and then when it was put back together de-restricted it didn't work.

I don't think that it will get better as time goes on, if anything (not very likely I'd say) it'll get worse as if a belt has slipped and is somewhere other than where it is meant to be then it could well be rubbing on something. Also, the engine is revving but it's not going as fast as it should so where are those revs going as they're doing something other than turning the back wheel.

Give it a couple of days in the working week and hopefully someone will be able to help your bike going above 18mph again.

Don't know I'll be getting my license back but it's not likely to be any time soon, not this year at least.

[superchoward]

Awwww too bad.

Binge just told me an idea, i didnt actually see what my mate did i just let him do it because he took it off and he seemed to have no problems. Ben thinks it could be something like when the variator was put back on it wasnt put on right or the rollers may have slightly dislodged etc. Hope so. I am taking it apart at mates tomorrow to see if it is fixable

Chris

[binge]

If that washer is there. Make sure it goes on AFTER the restrictor plate and not before. If it goes inbetween the Variator plate and the restrictor plate, there is like another 4mm of restriction there which would stop the bike from geting up to a higher gear ratio (Which I personally think is the problem at the moment)

So make sure the washer is at the back dude...
Infact, Just take the washer out I dont have that washer in as it is 4mm of restriction...

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[superchoward]

Right, took it apart earlier, checked everything was ok, made sure rollers were right way etc. Put it back together, went out, 5mph, 10mph, 15mph, 20mph , 30mph And stopped there
Well chuffed, thanks guys
No idea what was wrong, dont really care now. Something musn't of been put back right obviously

Chris

[Thet2]

sounds like one of the rollers was stuck and basically left it in the slow gear, thats why it was screaming it's tits off