?38,000 Honda CBR600rr

[Villers]

Anyone read MCN? Apparently they priced all the parts needed to build a fresh CBR600rr and the bill came to a whopping £38,000. On top of that obviously you would have to pay labour on top of that.

All that for a £7100 bike?

Anyone else sick of getting kicked in the knackers by bike manufacturers?

Discuss!

[loply]

Yeah I read the article, £38,000 to build a CBR600 from official spare parts.

Im inclined to agree that theyre a rip off.
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[JonB]

Yep, I read it too, cheap bikes = expensive parts.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

It doesn't surprise me at all, and has been like that for years. Last one I read was about 12~13 years ago where they priced a bike up at £24000 as spare parts (cannot remember the bike, Kwak I think).

What really amazed me £883 for a pair of brake calipers (a set of Ducati Brembo calipers would be half that) and the front wheel at £1072 (more than the cost of a pair of Dymag wheels from Harris).

All the best

Keith
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[Sparks!]

I don't get you? You're saying the £7100 600RR costs £38,000 to build then complaining it's £7100 a rip off?

Don't understand??
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[mchaggis]

It costs £38000 to build from official spare parts.

As Honda sell it for £7100, it means they're ripping us off like nobody's business on spares. I doubt they're making much profit on selling the bikes though, they are making the money in servicing and spares.
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[nick.h]

does that if you broke a new cbr6 you would make more than you payed for it?
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[Bendy]

Theoretically, yes.

[dodsi]

That gives me an idea...

[Ste]

But would you actually be confident that you could sell all the parts and not be left with a few random bike parts?

Probably shouldn't be thinking about it though.

[carnislick]

[G]

Plenty of breakers do buy new bikes for this purpose; they can obviously afford to invest money which they may not see a return in for a year or two.

Do remember that buying spare parts includes lots of 'extra' steps.
profit is going to be added for each part.
They are going to have to pay someone to store the item in a warehouse in Japan; then they've got to pay for that part to be shipped, then stored somewhere in the UK. Then it's got to be sent to the dealer in the UK who gets it to you.

Each time someone is haveing to be paid to handle and sell the goods. The bike attracts one 'charge' as such for each bit, while there are going to be many more man-hours used when you are talking about a whole bike's worth of bits.

Not saying these prices are in anyway fair... but I would be rather worried if it came out at a similar price to the bike. Would suggest they were making a lot of money on the bike.

Also, do remember that they have to make profit somewhere; if they want to keep looking good to stockholders etc they may well have to increase prices of the bikes to compensate for lost revenue.
(Not sure what percentage comes from parts etc).

[mrchips]

£38k for a CBR600 what does it do? Wipe your arse?
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[DynaMight]

I wonder how much it would cost in Japan or USA (Insert any other country that doesnt rip off everyone, Well insert pretty much any country apart from the UK then)

Anyway! I bet it would be a damn sight cheaper than £38k

Another reason why alot of bikes are stolen purely for the parts, They are worth more that way!
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[Rollins]

Talking of rip-offs, you can buy a brand new R1 in the US for less than £5900.
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[Scooby]

Another reason spare parts are so expensive is so that more bikes become write offs in the event of a crash. That means that a new bike will be bought somewhere along the line, but if you're willing to pay the price for the spare part then so be it.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

The prices do take the piss. As G says there are costs involved. But when Akrapovic can sell a titanium exhaust system for half the price (made in far smaller numbers so higher development costs, far more expensive materials, and with far more labour intensive techniques) than Honda it seems things are really screwy.

All the best

keith
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[El Toro]

That's why some people buy new bikes and break them then sell the parts on eBay.

Nice tidy profit to be made if you can put up with the hassle

[Villers]

In mcn the exhaust system came out at £1900 and an engine cover (or was it a clutch casing I cant remember) came out as £430.

V easy to write off a bike with those kind of prices

[AD]

That is like in bike (or ride) magazine before christmas, they had the prices for a low-side/ drop for the 1000cc bikes, the parts being, mirror, indicators, front fairing, side fairing, fuel tank, rear set and exhaust. The parts price for that alone for the MV Augusta came to about £4200, but what i found surprising was that the fireblade was the cheapest at only £1200ish, honda are usually so expensive.

On the same note, my mates old RS125 repair bill came to over £4000 when he highsided it due to the garage not putting the sump plug back in properly, promptly dumping oil all over the rear tyre, so it was fortunate that the garage admitted responsibility and fixed it all free of charge! and replaced his gear!
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[Villers]

Holy shit AD!! Although the RS was never going to be cheap to fix, just glad I never dropped mine when I had it.

When my bird knocked over my mates ZX6R a while back it needed a new mirror, bar end, side fairing,top fairing and the fairing brace that goes through the middle. That all come to about 900 for parts.

[Kickstart]

Hi

One that amused me a few weeks back was one of those lists of parts prices for a few bikes in a road test. The Ducati was the cheapest (cheaper than the Honda).

All the best

Keith
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[Yannic]

i allways get worried with ebay that its not just bikes being broken down on there and sold but instead, stolen bikes being broken down and sold.

Would hate to think I might buy a part from a stolen bike for mine.

[Ste]

Looking at getting a '99 ZX6R in good condition for 2k and breaking it for parts, well sell parts in a few months when prices go up a bit.

[TiN]

I remember something similar being done quite a while back, but I think that it was a Gixxer or something.

The thing is - I bet that they used all Honda "RRP" prices, rather than finding the cheapest sources. For instance, David Silvers manages to sell at a much cheaper price than Fowlers, and even cheaper if you're willing to wait a few weeks. Having said that, I do agree that spares prices are much too high.

If you're thinking about buying a new break, then be aware that there is absolutely no chance of getting what you want (if you base prices on manufacturers RRP) on certain parts - for instance, you'd be hard pushed to sell a stock 600RR exhaust (just the slip-on) for much over £50...

But in regards to the whole bike breaking scenario - One guy I dealt with informed me that you might need a breaker's licence to do that...but maybe only if you're planning to do it as a business.
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