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johnsmith222
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 27 Mar 2011    Post subject: How Much PSI? Reply with quote

Hi guys.

I have had a tyre replaced recently and it has a leak, either from the rim or the valve. The valve was replaced so I'm more inclined to think it's from the rim.

Anyway, my compressor could only handle 60psi so I'm off to the petrol station to put more in. How many pounds should I put in and do garage compressors go that high?

Thanks for any help guys.

-David.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 27 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

What bike?

As a safe guess 35PSI is a good starting point.
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 27 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If its leaking it wont help to put more than recommended pressure, in fact its dangerous!
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 27 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marki wrote:
What bike?

As a safe guess 35PSI is a good starting point.


It's for a ZZR600.

It's a Michelin 160/60 ZR17.

I have pumped it up to 60psi at the moment. I don't want to know tyre pressures for riding. I am wanting to know how much PSI for seating a tyre so that it seals with the rim.

It isn't dangerous. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 27 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

J5 wrote:
It isn't dangerous. Rolling Eyes

It is if you over pressurize it and it explodes in your face.
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 27 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raffles wrote:
J5 wrote:
It isn't dangerous. Rolling Eyes

It is if you over pressurize it and it blows up in your face.


Yeah but you're talking well over 100psi.


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PostPosted: 22:02 - 27 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="J5"]
Marki wrote:
I have pumped it up to 60psi at the moment. I don't want to know tyre pressures for riding. I am wanting to know how much PSI for seating a tyre so that it seals with the rim.

It isn't dangerous. Rolling Eyes


Is it an alloy rim? How olds the bike? If its an old alloy rim the alloy can corrode meaning the tyre doesnt seal properly on the rim. Ive just had this with my car.
I think the tyre will be seated properly, assuming it was balanced afterwards and didnt require a considerably large amount of weights.
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 27 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Martay"]
Marki wrote:
I have pumped it up

Is it an alloy rim? How olds the bike? If its an old alloy rim the alloy can corrode meaning the tyre doesnt seal properly on the rim. Ive just had this with my car.
I think the tyre will be seated properly, assuming it was balanced afterwards and didnt require a considerably large amount of weights.


It was balanced and didn't require a lot of weights. I saw the rim and it appeared to be in good condition. It went really soft 48 hours after the tyre was changed. It did a good 80 miles on the day it was changed and was fine. It has gone soft in my garage.

I have checked the surface of the tyre using my ear but there doesn't seem to be any air escaping. It's sat at 62psi at the moment and I can't hear any air escaping. The tyre went really flat in 48 hours.

I have put soapy water over and round the valve but I cannot see any bubbles appearing so I think it's a good seal.

The tyre was inflated to 50psi when the tyre was changed to seat it. I inflated it to 62psi. I have since let it down to 42psi which is the standard pressure. I will check the pressure in the morning.
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 27 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude, you should not have anything over 40psi (unless your a really fat barstard) in a rear tyre on any sports/sports-touring bike.

I run 36 or 38 on the rear of the cbr and that weighs 280-odd kilo
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 27 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
Dude, you should not have anything over 40psi (unless your a really fat barstard) in a rear tyre on any sports/sports-touring bike.

I run 36 or 38 on the rear of the cbr and that weighs 280-odd kilo


Honda quote 36/42 for CBR's.

Just take it back to the tyre fitter J5, they would probably take it off and put it back on, making sure the rim is in good nick around the edges. Doing it yourself with 60psi+ is asking for trouble
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 27 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
Dude, you should not have anything over 40psi (unless your a really fat barstard) in a rear tyre on any sports/sports-touring bike.

I run 36 or 38 on the rear of the cbr and that weighs 280-odd kilo


The front is 36psi and the rear is 42psi on the ZZR600. I have just gone by what kawasaki recommend for the ZZR. I do realise there's room for adjustment to personal pereference. I weigh 13.5 stone and regularly have a mate on the back who weighs over 17 stone.
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 27 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 07:29 - 28 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another option would be to remove the wheel from the bike and dump it into a tub of water. You should then be able to identify where the air is escaping from.
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PostPosted: 08:50 - 28 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

High pressure isn't likely to seat it to prevent a small leak. You need to find the leak and fix it (which might mean cleaning up the rim), using a large tub of water (the bath when nobody is looking).

All the best

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PostPosted: 14:38 - 28 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright guys. I checked the pressure 15 hours after inflating the tyre and it was still at the same psi of 42.

I have managed to ride to uni and back without the tyre deflating. I am going to double check for any punctures, but I don't think there is any.

Should I just keep riding and see if the pressure goes down any further?
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 28 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You won't be able to re seat it by cranking the PSI up.

Take it back to the fitters. Mine was doing exactly the same and they took off the tyre and painted some 'Bead sealant' stuff onto the inside of the wheel.

Not had a problem since. The wheels can get scratched up inside and a leak can occur.

They didnt charge me to do the bead sealant, if you get a tyre fitted then you expect it not to leak.

And if you have pumped it up to a high PSI you shouldn't ride around on it, it can make the handling skittish.
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 28 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take it back soon as the later you leave it the less likely they will do it for nowt
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