CBR 600 FY clutch change

[swaffs]

Ok so I've worn my clutch........

I'm not sure what I need to get.

I'm finding the clutch is just slipping in any gear even when lever is fully out and adjusted as far out as it can go

I'm guesing I need a 'clutch assembly kit' and have found this...
'https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/catalogue/product_detail.asp?PCODE=EBCCK2317&GRP=MCP036&PGRP=MC005&CLS=MCYCLE&from=search

or maybe even these;
https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/catalogue/product_detail.asp?PCODE=EBCSRC63&GRP=MCP036&PGRP=MC005&CLS=MCYCLE&from=search&email=Y

Anyone know if this is what I'm after and also any tips for changing? (or anyone in S London with some time at the weekend for some beer money?)
It's one of those jobs that I'm sure is not that difficult once you've done it or even seen someone else doing it.

cheers.
Swaffs
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[Bendy]

The first one is fine - EBC clutch kit.

I've seen it done a couple of times (usually 'in the field') and it doesn't look that hard.

Might as well do an oil change at the same time, though I've seen people just tip the bike over so none comes out when you take the clutch cover off, and just topping it up afterwards.

[swaffs]

Cheers Bendy,
I was planing an oil change before Brands so might as well do it then.


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[Kickstart]

Hi

Probably just a new set of plates required. Depending on the bike it can be a very easy job. Not that easy on the CBR, but not that difficult, just because there is a large nut in the middle of the clutch that you need to undo.

G did one at Elvington.

If you have access to an air impact wrench it should be quite easy.

Clutch plate wise I have used EBC in the FZ750 and had no problems, but the FZR600 does not seem to like them (worked fine until it got hot, now gets juddery very quickly when it gets hot). Used Lucas plates in the Bandit as the original one slipped when the engine was tuned which I put down to clutch wear. I was wrong as the Lucas ones slipped as well (nowhere near as badly), so it landed up with Barnett plates and springs (about twice the price of the EBC ones). Got some Barnett ones on order for the FZR.

All the best

Keith
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[swaffs]

hmmm.

it's just me and my socket set, no air impact shenanigans for me.

I found this page:
https://hawkworks.net/F4-fiche/clutch.html

so the bits I need to replace are the friction plates x2 (no. 7):
https://hawkworks.net/F4-fiche/clutch.gif

finding out where this lots is located and accessed from is the next job. (I wish I was more mechanical) give me 'lectrical things anytime.

Swaffs


oh, can anyone recommend anywhere cheap for plates?
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[swaffs]

quote from Deemon Tweekes:

cork kit 32.72
springs 9.40
kevlar kit 62.28


should I replace the springs as well (moneys tight so I don't want to buy any more than I need to) ?

Thanks

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[Bendy]

Just get the cork kit and they always seem to be about £30.

Don't need springs.

Wouldn't bother with the kevlar one - consider that I'm on the original clutch after 24,000 miles so it's not like the cork ones don't last.

[G]

Unfortunately Honda are bitches, so you it is a bit of hassle to seperate the clutch basket.

On my own bike I am suspicous of using the method we used at Elvington. This is locking the rear wheel by putting a bit of wood through it to stop the clutch basket turning.

This is going to be putting, I would estimate, easily over a thounsand foot-pounds of torque through your chain and wheel etc.

You often don't /need/ to do the springs; but sometimes that is the problem and the plates are fine!
Note that EBC pads do sometimes seem to have problems with thin fully synth, but should be fine with good quality semi-synth.

A clutch change can be done quickly and easily without an oil change etc, so it wouldn't be a big loss to just get the cheap plates now, then get some more stuff later if needed.

You still wanting to see about race scrubs?
If so, you're welcome to make use of my air-compressor at the same time (I have an impact wrench etc as well). I've done quite a few clutches and only time we've had a problem was on the vfr when we didn't have the manual (has a rather odd clutch basket with the inner section split into two halves, which have to be ligned up.)

[swaffs]

As ever G / Keith / Bendy you are all extremely helpfull.

Thank you.

G, I might well take you up on that offer. (will arrange a weekend when your available (next 2 weekends idealy))

Just need to sort out getting bike to you. (swaffs Googles for G's bike transportation services)
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Normally it is the nut labelled 12 that is a pig on Honda clutches (Yamaha ones are a doddle). However if that picture is accurate then it looks like they might have done it Yamaha style which makes it quite easy. Maybe Honda have learnt something. The problem with that nut is not how tight it is, rather that it is attached to a shaft that is free to spin with the gearbox in neutral.

You can easily avoid changing the oil as G says. However note that you should soak the new plates in oil before installing them.

The springs do wear with age and they are not expensive. For the extra £10 I would be tempted to fit them. It is worth having a ring round for the best prices, and Demon Tweaks are often not the cheapest by quite a way.

All the best

Keith
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[swaffs]

All ordered.

Patternparts were £32.70.

hopefully will fit at weekend.
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[Hex]

You can't have G this weekend as he's coming to Worcester.

There again bring your bike and G to worcester and we'll do it here for you.
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