1st bike - what security

[randomspam]

Hallo,

I've gone and got myself a 2004 Honda XR125L for only £1350 and I am thoroughly excited.

I'm using it for commuting and when at work it will be parked in a public motorbike bay and when at home it will be parked in the small yard area outside my front window. Fortunately it's my property to I'm able to fix a ground anchor.

So i have a few questions about what would be best, I've been looking on ebay and so far I have seen numerous options all from this one seller.

Option 1)
OXFORD BOSS DISK OR CHAIN LOCK SOLD SECURE
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=25643&item=7954167871&rd=1

Option 2)
NEW OXFORD BOSS ALARM DISK LOCK-- TOP SECURITY
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=25643&item=7953976704&rd=1

OXFORD SOLD SECURE CHAIN AND ANCHOR 1/2 PRICE!! DEAL
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=25643&item=7953976696&rd=1

Option 3)
2004 1.5M OXFORD HD CHAIN AND DISK LOCK WINTER SALE
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=25643&item=7953976712&rd=1

OXFORD BRUTE FORCE GROUND ANCHOR
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=25643&item=7954202650&rd=1

Or any combination of the above I guess.

Q1) So of the above would any of those 3 options me massively better than the others?

Q2) Will Sold Secure products make a difference to insurance or is it just a myth?

Q3) Do I need some hardcore drill bits for fixing an anchor to the ground or do they come with them? It will have to go through paving and then brick.

Q4) Is the Boss Alarm disk lock much cop? It struck me as a great idea, providing it works, I don't want it going off at random points during the night.

Q5) Erm...sorry for all the questions

Cheers
Rs

[Bendy]

Sold secure might make a wee difference, but not much. I favoured a massive barrel of concrete with a chain through it over any little loops of metal sold in the shops.

I think you usually get a drill bit with the ground anchors, best to ask the seller though to be sure.

Disc locks... I'm not keen. Prefer to attach the bike *to* something if at all possible.

[bish777]

For storing at home, look out for 15mm ships chain. Ive got a length of it and it weighs a ton, but it is as good as chain gets really. Also look in security catalogues for a CISA certified padlock to go with it. Buy a good ground anchor to go with it.

For security on the move, you can get lighter chains, oxford do a good chain and padlock for 20-25 pounds i forget the name. Cable locks are no good as they can be hacked through with a small hacksaw-i know because i cut an oxford one off my bike when the key snapped.

A disc lock or U-lock is good for nipping into the shops etc.
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[JodieWodie]

All I can tell you is what I have....
ground anchor, heavy duty chain through wheels and frame.

I also have the added luxury of being able to get my bike round to the garden at the back.

So..option 3.
I don't trust disc locks,..and I wouldn't trust a chain alone either.
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[bish777]

when you leave the bike at home and go out or go to bed, make sure its chained through the frame if possible-wheels can be easily removed, that the steering lock is ALWAYS on, and put your disc lock on as well.

If your taking the bike downtown say, take a lighter chain and your disc lock if your going to leave it unattended for more than 30 mins.

Always at least have a disc or u lock on it when leaving it outside the shops etc if your just popping in.

And ALWAYS put the steering lock on!!
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[Dom_]

Why is everyone telling people what security they have? lol

Mines a secret!

[Scotsman37]

Thatcham approved, if you can afford it, bike alarm as that will help to protect your bike from thiefs as it even helps to keep annoying little kids trying to sit on your bike as the alarm will send them running and so they are less likely to return.

A ground anchor at your home is a good option and don't buy a chain if the lock uses a cylindrical key that looks like a barrel, but rather a normal key instead because recently they were found to be easily defeated by a Bic pen according to an article in bike magazine not long ago.

If you do get a disk brake lock get one which has the springy connection cable to attach to your handle bar so as to remind you that you've got the lock on. That attachment reminds you that it's on because if you do try to drive away you'll fall over when it hits the fork !

[JodieWodie]

[randomspam]

Thanks for all the advice guys and girl really appreciate it, after near enough 2k on bike and gear it would be stupid to skimp on security and I imagine my area is quite high on the ol' premiums.

I would give you all lots of lovely Karma but I'm not allowed anymore after I gave it to all the people who helped me before and then got de-karma'd myself

I think i'll go with the ground anchor and take the chain to work with me and also try the alarm/lock combo both at home and work and I will now always use my steering lock

[Sadie]

Never mind - if you post interesting/funny posts and keep your spelling as good as it is, it will soon get better.


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[Ric]

if you can put in a ground anchor it is a must

Fat chains and having it tied down will deter a large amount of people

is it a Smoto or what? wont have a problem with it getting stripped

im waiting till my parents re do the drive for mine, i asked my landlord at uni too and he said no

[The Tot]

Ric - he's pretty much got the same bike as mine. I loop my chain from my rear wheel around the rear luggage rack and use a secondary chain to chain that to my barbeque "ground anchor" it's bloody heavy , but then again my bike is garaged and it's on CCTV in a college car park. Get a chain - oxford chains are pretty decent but i've got a motrax one. But in your situtation - chains are the best option. Disk locks are a bit shitty even though i know that the Oxford Boss is pretty decent. DO NOT GET THE OXFORD HD - the chain is light as a feather, the links are weak and the lock can be opened using a bic biro . Oxford hardcore is pretty good, so get that and loop around the wheel and rear rack.

Best form of security in my own opinion is to leave your keys in the ignition barrel , but lets not go into that.
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[Scotsman37]

[instigator]

thats a bit paranoid though isn't it!!! Sure, could happen, but he isn't chaining down a 2005 R1.

[Ric]

[nick.h]

[Zoffo]

I 'borrowed' a sling hook from a 4 tonne motor at work, complete with 3 inches of thread and a nut about the size of my fist. Dug up the garage floor and sank the lot in with just the top of the hook sticking out. They don't sell anything near as effective as this.