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 steveh World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 00:02 - 20 Feb 2005 Post subject: woops. |
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Well was in the shed, sorting some stuff out for the tip, and genral fannying about when i picked up a part of my old bike and went to throw it in the bin, as i looked up there was a tax disc holder, complete with tax and still in date? WTF i thought..... then i realised, id forgoten to put it back on my bike from about a month ago
Anyone else done anything like this, what would i of gotten if i got pulled over?
Cheers, Steve. ____________________ Current : 06 Zx10r, 07 Wr450f SM, 74 850 norton commando, 63 bsa b40, 1962 Triton 650, 67 Triumph Tr6r, 1955 Triton 750, 1978 TY250E. |
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When I bought my bike I didnt realise the tax disc wasnt attatched (I bunged it in a drawer with all the other docs).
About 3 months later I started wondering where abouts on the bike it was. ____________________ Yamaha SZR660 Caution to the wind, the throttle pinned! |
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 Kickstart The Oracle

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Hi
I to have been told by a neighbour who is in the police (and was traffic police until they scrapped them round here) and he said that the police are no longer interested in a lack of tax disk. If they notice it then they will report it to the DVLA who can deal with it, but the police do not care.
If they are pulling people up then the chances are that they are just being used as hired hands by the DVLA (who themselves would not have the authority to pull people over).
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Except that the police DO report you if they see no tax displayed.
For the most part it may be true they may not go looking specificaly for tax offences, but make no mistake if you do get seen, you will get reported.
In Sept 04, my two year old CbR was parked in a marked bike parking bay just round the corner from Kingston College, Surrey.
I returned to it from the shopping centre as a pliceman was looking over the two rows of bikes.
As I was putting on my helmet he came over and asked if it was my bike and was I aware that there was no valid tax disc on view.
I told him it had been stolen in the past and to prevent it being stolen again I now caried it with me and produced it from my inside pocket in my leathers. He took it, looked at it and gave it back and told me it was an offence not to display it on my bike in a public place and I was being reported for not having a valid tax disc on display.
*note* The policeman did not nick me, he reported me to the dvla who fined me.
I was fined by the dvla and after a long conversation with a woman on the phone in the dvla office, I discovered that the reason the fine was so high was because my bike had been reported before for not displaying a tax disc (I wasnt aware of this before this phone call). As this was a second time of being reported and I still was not displaying the tax disc the previous offence was taken into consideration.
So regardless of what youve been told by the bloke next door, my own personal expeience and lighter wallet says that your information is wrong. My bike and all the bikes in the bike park had been checked
And I believe its wrong that people post up information saying that nothing will happen if you dont display a valid disc, when the fact is if you get reported for no disc on display, you will get fined for it even if its in your pocket.
The odds may indeed be in your favour that youll get away with it, but its wrong to advise people that nothing will happen.
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the police dont nick you for tax they only report you for it afaik,
i have bin done twice over no tax in the past and got of both times by back dating and telling my local tax office as the police cant do you for no tax only for the fact your not displaying a tax disc.
i,m not saying this is the law only from my own experience. ____________________ "Its Better To Burn Out Than Fade Away!!!!!!" "Lifes a bitch and then you Die"
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There is often a 'tax van' along the A4 from me.
I've been told they give £200 fines!
Easy money for them, though they do seem to need 15 police people and eight to ten vehicles to do this useful work . |
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There could well be a mobile greasy spoon there too, you never know! Just the place for them all to sit about whilst pretending to do proper work.  ____________________ I must not be a troll...
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I got stopped this morning in Hook after coming off the A3 at Ace of Spades. Got a bollocking for doing 35 in a 30 zone but was let off.
After chatting to me guess what the policeman asked me.
'Is your tax disc displayed on the bike?'
I pointed him to the tax disc holder on the nearside fork and he wrote down some of the information on it, and after a PNC check told me to go on my way and pay more attention to the speed limits.
And police dont check tax right ? Wrong.
| Kickstart wrote: | Except that you are one of very few people to have been done for it. |
Which is exactly the point. It may not happen often, but it DOES happen, so telling people it is safe to ride with no tax disc on display because nothing will happen is wrong.
The odds may be on your side, but people can and do get fined for it.
Its one thing to say you have an 80% chance of getting away with it, its another to say you WILL get away with it.
I dont understand your reluctance to give out correct information, rather than misleading information.
People come onto forums like this for advice, and someone who doesnt know different may take a tax disc off his bike after reading the wrong advice and find himself fined for it. It may be a small % of people this happens to, but that small % of people should know the risk if they want to ride with a tax disc in thier pocket and not on display.
| jaffa wrote: | So CBRnick, you're saying Darkside is a liar? Is that right? |
Im saying is its the fact that the police are not interested in tax discs is incorrect.
As already stated I was fined for not displaying a valid tax disc on my bike, even though it was in my pocket after my bike(and all the other bikes in the bike park by Kingston College, Surrey) was checked for tax by a policeman. He had in fact parked his car on the kerb by the bike park and stopped specificaly to check the bikes over.
Drive around South London on a bike a lot (particulaly Brixton area) and sooner or later you will drive through a roadside stop where the police pull over all bikes and vans and check them for tax, MOT and insurance.
So given the choice between believing :
A. a an anon person on a forum who says the police have no interest, or
B. believing the fact that I was fined after the police checked my parked bike for tax and believing the numerous times ive been stopped and had half an hour wasted while all bikes on the road are checked for tax. Dont forget the fact I was stopped this morning and the officer made a POINT of checking my tax disc and writing down the information on it.
Then I will believe B. as the anon person is clearly giving out incorrect information because personal experience, lighter wallet and time wasted at police road side stops says that police DO check tax. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 21 years, 31 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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