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Kram
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Support a bike Reply with quote

hey, i've just bought a new X chain, and sprockets for my FZR600,

and was wondering is there any way i can get the rear end up, without using a paddock stand (since i don't have one).

i need to fit these parts, ASAP. as i got real bad chain slap.

i have no main stand, and was wondering about other methods...



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G
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Re: Support a bike Reply with quote

Some people use the side stand and something to lift the the opposite side of the rear swing arm.

You could probably use car axle stands or similar, if you have them.
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Simple
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Re: Support a bike Reply with quote

G wrote:

You could probably use car axle stands or similar, if you have them.



yep Thumbs Up i use two car axel stands with some carpet on them to prevent any marks of scuffs.

usually put them under the swing arm of far back on the frame(its a cradle style frame)
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Kram
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i thought of a temporary idea.... i have no car stands, but do have car jacks.


remove fairing (gotta come off anyways)

place block of wood on the winging arm, as near to the center of bike as possible, use car jack, on the underside of the wood to raise the back tyre.

would that work?


Drummer


P.S. my 'X' gold chain, how long should it last / need adjusting?
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Ste
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get yourself a paddock stand, it'll make life lots easier to change your sprocket & chain, plus it'll continue being useful whenever you want to do something like adjust your chain. Thumbs Up

If you've got pillion grab handles or are able to get at any of the subframe you could put straps through it and hoist the back end off the ground.

You'll want to adjust it and lube it every few hundred miles or every week/two weeks ideally.
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

How did you adjust your chan before ?
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Kram
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i plan on getting one, but don't get paid till next week, and i need to replace my chain tomorrow
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Simple
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

a car jack and a plank of wood would work,

ive used a pile of bricks and a board befoe in desperation.

as for chain life i have no idea as i only have a 125 Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would probably need two car jacks at the same height as I don't think that one would be stable enough.
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Ric
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

stick it in the garage and tie it up and hoist it

i did that to take the swinger off my RS
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Not sure you can put a piece of wood under the swinging arm for a jack. Suspect the rear suspension linkage would get in the way.

Paddock stand is fine, but no use if you want to remove the swinging arm.

Supporting the bike from above works well, except you really need to get the rear bodywork off to avoid damaging it.

Possibly the best solution is a pair of car axle stands under the frame, towards the rear. This is what I will be doing this weekend (need to change the chain and sprockets on my FZR600, and also take off the swinging arm and grease the linkage).

Chain life seems to depend on how well you treat them. Generally I seem to get around 15000 miles out of a set. Easier on a bike with a centre stand as you are more likely to lube the chain Confused .

All the best

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PostPosted: 16:02 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

what if you were to slide a piece of wood like a piece of 2 X 4 through the wheel spokes and have 12 inches of overhang each side of the swing arm, you could then have extra room to support the bike from each end of the wood? I remember someone telling me about it when they need to get the front sproket off, the wood stops the wheel from turning so you can get a nice firm turn on the sproket nut Exclamation
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

BLOFLY 636 wrote:
what if you were to slide a piece of wood like a piece of 2 X 4 through the wheel spokes and have 12 inches of overhang each side of the swing arm, you could then have extra room to support the bike from each end of the wood? I remember someone telling me about it when they need to get the front sproket off, the wood stops the wheel from turning so you can get a nice firm turn on the sproket nut Exclamation


First, it would be kinda hard to get the rear sprocket off... if you're supporting the bike with the rear wheel Smile.


Also, when using this method to take the front sprocket off you have to remember that you will probably be putting a massive amount of torque through the chain. We're talking 1000ft-lb+ easily. I have broken a wooden handled hammer doing this in the past (was too late to use my compressor).
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Kram
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i went and bought a paddock stand Smile ... replaced my 2 sprockets

went to replace chain... putting link in... found out i need a rivet thingy? it's an X chain, and doesn't come with one of those clips.


it says on box i need a rivet gun, thing...

if i wheel it to my local bike place, ya reacon they'd do it for free (just the rivet bit)
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