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Josh|RD125LC · World Chat Champion Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Karma :

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bugsy46 · Village Idiot Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Karma :

Crashed at start
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Gazdaman · I did a trackday!!! Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Karma :

I think he stuck his foot out as instinct.

If I enter a corner much too hot, I naturally stick my foot out, as a kind of stabiliser in case the front goes.

Don't know if this was the case or not.

Fantastic race, I was literally on the edge of my seat for the last lap, and I don't think sete going out was Rossi's fault particularly, it's all part of racing.

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Shaun · Likes 'em bent Joined: 17 May 2003 Karma :

He always seems to stick his foot out before a corner, think its his way of getting his toes on the end of the peg or something.

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

He did it a few times before that, that I noticed.
I have saved some front wheel slides like that before, but never that leant over. [edit]and only stuck me foot out after I actually slid[/edit]
I would have thought a knee on the deck might be a better method of saving a slide

As an aside, if this sort of practice was considered 'acceptable', then I suspect we might see the same thing happening on every last corner, every race.
If you can't get past, you go in not being able to make the turn properly, but get inside and force the other person of the track.

Gazdaman · I did a trackday!!! Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Karma :

? I think G means where he actually trailed his foot on the floor just before the last corner, where him and Gibernau had their little get together.

Gaz

Johnny GSX-R · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Karma :

Fooks sake, i've watched it back 3 times, the guy is entitled to take his foot off when he likes, that bike was steaming and completely out of shape and ROSSI has gone further up in my book for having the sheer courage and front to carry out such a move. He won in a similar way at ASSEN. Mr. Green

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

I didn't say he wasn't entitled to Confused

. Was just wondering why out of cursiosity (never say no to some tips Razz

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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Doesn't rossi ride crossers in the 'off' season?

Probably a reflex from his off-road experience as the bike was all out of shape and starting to slide, on a crosser you would put a foot down and slide it round the corner.
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gauloises · Scooby Slapper Joined: 12 Dec 2004 Karma :

WOW. wot a race. Its amazing how rossi always slaps sete in the face right towards the end. ROSSI IS THE BEST

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kwaka · Derestricted Danger Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Karma :

The antagonism in this thread is nearly as good as the last lap yesterday.
Two riders at the peak of their skill controlling 250hp at 200mph within micro seconds of each other is a world where we dont even exist.
Was Rossi out of control? - probably.
Was 'that move' premeditated? - possibly.
Had the roles been reversed in the premeditated scenario - would Gibernau have done it? - I bet he would!

lilredmachine · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Karma :

Don't get all this. It is on video. Rossi had the inside line and they were level, cos when Gibernau hit him, he hit him full on in the side, not the front or the back. In this situation IMO it is Gibernau's duty to back off. Being a Moto GP race we all knew that that wasn't gonna happen and Gibernau went off after hitting Rossi. If Gibernau had backed off, then Rossi (debatably) would have gone off and Gibernau would have won. I say debatably because I don;t believe Rossi was running off the track.
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cc123 · Geez a joab? Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Karma :

WHO CARES !!!!!

I was on the edge of my seat in amazement at the TV, tell me the last time that happened to any of you when watching an F1 race.........???? Confused

Exactly!

Great racing right at the end, some rubbing, a few overtakes...
Sete is upset but I don't see either riding complaining to the Moto GP officials about the move so sets up a great 2nd round at Estoril! Very Happy

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bugsy46 · Village Idiot Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Karma :

Korn · Admin Joined: 01 Feb 2002 Karma :

Missed the actual race, just watched the highlights though and that was pretty amazing action. You could see Rossi wasn't going to let it go without a fight, I don't think he expected Gibernau to put up such a good challenge, both of them definitely got their money's worth of racing from each other.

In the end first across the finish line wins, all else be damned Razz

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Kris · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

I've been watching the last 2 laps again and again this morning at work Mr. Green

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Firstly, what an amazing end to a fantastic race. Really edge of the seat stuff and great for the sport Thumbs Up

As for the incident on the last corner - well, from what I can see it was always going to end in tears for one of them. We all know Rossi is a win or crash rider so full credit to him for going for that gap. I can't believe Sete didn't hold a defensive line on that last bend - he knew he'd have the engine for a drag race to the line.

As for blame, I'd say 50/50. These things always used to happen in the good ol' days of F1 - where two drivers legitimately went for the same piece of track at the same time. Unfortunately one person usually comes off worse which is a bit of tough luck in racing.
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lilredmachine · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Karma :

^^^^

Precisely, Rossi won because he was faster on a slower bike. Makes Gibernau look slow.
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tintin · Traffic Copper Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Karma :

It was the way poor old Ste made such a big deal about the way he had to hold his arm? For god's sake these guys fall off bikes at 100mph and jump up, does he really think he is fooling anyone that he hurt himself badly when they only banged together at about 30mph! I loved the look Rossi gave the camera when they were climbing up the stairs to the Rostrum and Ste had to stop to rest for a moment, brilliant.

"Did diddums hurt it when that nasty big boy Rossi bashed him, let Mummy have a look at it, I'll give you some Calpol and let you sit on the sofa with your comic until Daddy comes home and then you can tell him all about it"

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Gibernau, “We set a really fast pace throughout the race and in the end I slowed down a little to see where Valentino’s strong points were. We pressured each other hard and in the end I have the peace of mind that I did everything I could and that in general we’re already at a high level at the first race."

"In the end I slowed down a little to see where Valentino’s strong points were".
Is he seriously trying to say he let Valentino through, come on!

Rossi - "It was a hard battle with Gibernau. He was very fast today and rode very well. I got in front with two laps to go but unfortunately I made a big mistake in the middle of the last lap on the braking and Gibernau got past," said the six-times world champion. "We passed each other again, we touched two or three times and then at the end I passed him at the last corner. For sure it was a hard move and for sure Sete is angry - but this is racing."

Personally I'm glad Rossi stuffed him on the last corner, it's all down to who has the biggest balls and that's racing. Rossi was a bit cocky at the presentation, but it's all about mindgames, he needs an enemy to focus on, it will also always mess with Ste's head.
If you want to see something really deliberate go back a few years to Cappirossi winning the 250 title in Rio (I think), when he really did knock off his one remaining rival in the last race of the season.
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bugsy46 · Village Idiot Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Karma :

Mick Doohan and Alex Criville Jerez 1996

https://www2.motogp.com/ppv_multimedia/67/67701.wmv?MOTOGRANDPRIXSESSID=ff1cf24d3598bb4d0d50bc67ff13ec8a

slightly similar although there was no contact. Check out all the fans gathered in the gravel!!!!! my god
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Andy99 · Spanner Monkey Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Karma :

As far as the foot off the peg goes,Rossi did that every lap into the last corner and i've seen not just him but quite a few riders over the years do this.
Going into left handers they remove the foot from below the gear lever then replace it on the peg above the gear lever. Don't forget most GP riders have upside down gear boxes compared to road riders ie move lever up to go down the box,so going into a corner their toes will be under the lever in order to change down gear.
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