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Jayman · Derestricted Danger Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Karma :

Massive horn-factor in those last two laps. Don't know why theres this big hoo-har over the fairness of the rossi win. Fair play to them both.
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cc123 · Geez a joab? Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Karma :

Woah.....nice highside!!! Good post Bugsy.....
Doohan never touched him. That was crazy with those fans running to the track side! Shocked

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

I would be interested to hear if people think that it should be considered ok to do this at other times?
It would definitely make for an exciting last corner, but should it be acceptable behavior?

To go into a corner too fast and not be able to get past other riders, or to be in a position that they will cause another rider to collide with them because the other rider does not know they are there?

I do agree that Rossi showed that he could push the bike more. However I wonder if people would be thinking differently if Rossi has crashed, or even crashed and taken Sete out.

EuropeanNC30R... · Gay Hairdresser Joined: 20 Jun 2002 Karma :

I suspect it might not have happened if it wasn't the last corner Razz

After all, a couple corners previous Sete was on the inside line as they clashed fairings/came very close. Was that acceptable? Should MotoGP be completely non-contact? Should it sway more towards an F1 style procession?

It's a slippery slope. Personally I prefer MotoGP Wink

Also I find it hard to believe Sete wasn't expecting Rossi to come down his inside on the final corner before the straight. It was the only option open to him.

JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

I was watching BTCC yesterday on TV it was at Donington Park and the cars are basically smashing each other all the time, it's great and exciting to watch and yesterday MotoGP was just as, if not more exciting. Very Happy

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Kris · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

Look at the video again G. Rossi was neck & neck with Sete going into the turn when Sete adjusted (tightened) his line to attempt to block. That, IMHO, is the classic sign of a 50/50 incident.
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Jayman · Derestricted Danger Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Karma :

i agree with kris, sete realised what rossi was doing, whihc was a perfectly legas pass on ther inside, tried to correct his line resulting in the collision and him hitting the rough stuff.
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Josh|RD125LC · World Chat Champion Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Karma :

Xaus was very poor, I don't know whats up with him. Struggles a lot in the 500 series, but a superb rider in superbike. Lovely last two laps, saw the race this morning on eurosport. Nakano did a good job, nice to see a kwak doing well.
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tater · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Karma :

I dont understand how sete could be at fault he was in the lead and was taking the racing line, the gap up the inside did seem large but if you actual look at the sereval videos clips eg apriliaforums you can see that sete line makes him come into the cerb, i was a last ditch attempt/dive at overtaking sete.

I dont have a problem with contact, i race mx and there is plently of bar bashing compared to road bikes but there is a line between fighting for a line and pushing someone off the track and possibly making them crash.

I think the issue is not that rossi made a mistake and hit sete its that he deliberaltey keep pushing sete till he was off the track, if rossi had just kept turning on his supposed line sete would not of ended up in the gravel which there was no need for him to be pushed that far.

Its more what rossi did after the contact that pisses me off!

and for all the people that are saying stop moaning to sete he had practicaly won the race when another ride pushes him off the track then rubs his nose in it, if it was me rossi would be out for about 2 months with a broken jaw.

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tater · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Karma :

someones alittle touchy about rossi, rossi was in the wrong plain and simple so come out from brown nosing rossi and realise the truth and think of a more constructive comment Middle Finger

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tater · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Karma :

The fact that after contact instead of letting off he continued to run wider and wider right against sete till he had to sit it up and go onto the grass, the blatant rubbing setes nose in the fact that he had forced him off the track and not regretting the contact.

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

AcIdBuRnZ · World Chat Champion Joined: 28 Jul 2003 Karma :

Think this thread should be closed now Laughing

Rossi won, Sete lost - not like it was a title winning race so get over it.
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bugsy46 · Village Idiot Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Karma :

Dear F.I.M

If G ever applies to become a race marshall/director, please refuse his application

Yours

Mr Setelost
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

As that jibe was directed at me, could you answer the question I posed earlier?

Hennessy · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Karma :

I would have to agree with G, I suppose it would be intentional if this move occured in every race... As we've sorta clarified that most ppl think that what happened is ok to do? And that it was just an incident and not a monouver to try and elude one from a race.

Furthermore, I love this sport because of the "skill" and "art" that makes this sport what it is! I believe Rossi is an amazing rider and has so much talent to offer, yet if he commited this monouver more than once in a race, would it be reasonable? Does every rider need to think like this to head for the finish line first?

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bugsy46 · Village Idiot Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Karma :

In reference to G's question..........................

At the end of the day it was a racing incident, nothing more, nothing less. Its something that rarely happens in motogp. Rossi has taken people on the last lap MANY times before with no problems what so ever. If it was such a big deal Sete's team would have appealed against it. Ask yourself this G....................

How many times has this debate sparked up concerning Valentino in the past 5 years?
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