MarJay's Evil Plan Part 1: Clip on catastrophe!

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

Hi y'all.

After a fitful and maddened conversation in IRC, I decided to post a log of my eevil plan.

It all started when I began to think about the riding position on the Daytona. I was riding back from lydden practicing my body positioning for hanging off of the bike when I realised that my Knee down issues may be related to the bike's riding position.

The tank on the Daytona is very wide and so I am unable to hang off to the right because my left knee is stuck behind the left side of the tank. I realised that this was not a problem of the tank, but a problem with me sitting too far forward on the bike. I tried to sit further back in the seat, but was unable to do so. This was because I am on the small side (as many of you know).

https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=14454

The clip ons are such a stretch from the seat that I have to sit on the very front edge of it in order to ride.

If I could move my bars back slightly, then perhaps I would be able to hang off sufficiently to be able to GMKD.

As you can see, the Daytona clip ons are made in two pieces. This is very convenient. Other '97 -'99 Daytona owners on T595.net have tried a similar modifications, but I have been unable to find any clear pictures.
Here is what my clip ons look like now:
https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=14453

There are a couple of possible configurations that I am looking at. One is simply to swap the Brackets labelled A.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=14452

This image shows my bikes bars on full lock. I would like to try to position the brackets on their respective sides, except at the bottom of the top yoke rather than at the top as in this illustration, to put the bars more into a position labelled B.

Being that the bars would be at full lock in that photo, I am sure that the bracket would fit in the gap between the top yoke and the tank. I have measured and it should leave a few MM of clearance. The bars will be angled straight (as long as the brackets fit like that) so I would have no trouble with trapped thumbs etc.

I suspect that I will find I cannot acomplish this due to clearances or whatever, but its an interesting thought nonetheless.

The first configuration I mentioned definitley works, and that is to swap left and right brackets so that the clip ons point upwards instead of downwards... this looks OK but does not really achieve what I am looking for.

If I can't do either of these, then I will either have to shell out £200 for some LSL risers, or GMKD on the TT600 Very Happy

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So.... am I mad? Smile

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Wave2k · G's Stalker Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Karma :

i looked at pics of other people doing KD
i tried to hang off the bike more aswell as
getting my arse lower down the bike
BINGO a planted knee down
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R4nger · World Chat Champion Joined: 05 Jan 2005 Karma :

Eat some spinach Razz

Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

I think it'll make the right bar further away and thus transfer the problem to the left hand side.

Just lean the damn thing further, your peg's not on the floor yet!

Frost · World Chat Champion Joined: 26 May 2004 Karma :

Make sure your actually hanging off correctly.

You need to rotate your hips around the tank, rather than just shift sideways.
Hang off, and try to kiss the mirror, and stick that knee right out.

Helps aswell if you can see pics of yourself doing it!

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

Have a look at these:
https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=14584

Here I am in bar reach position on the Daytona. As you can see the wide tank prevents me from hanging off easily.
https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=14583

Here I am in bar reach position on the TT. As you can see I can hang off much more easily because of the higher bars and narrow tank. Here my knee would be sticking out a lot further, only there is a Daytona preventing it from doing so! Smile

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WildGoose · White Van Man Joined: 21 Mar 2002 Karma :

https://pictures.autotrader.co.uk/ATD_web/servlet/media?id=154875547

jobbed. Laughing

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Gazdaman · I did a trackday!!! Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Karma :

I don't think it's a problem with the bars, I think you need to move your left leg away from the tank.

Take note of my pic, it looks like I'm hanging off both sides, but you end kinda with your leg over the seat, allowing you to hang off much more.

And I agree, you could lean the bike more, my pegs touch down first.

Gaz

https://www.gaz-racing.co.uk/bike/Toe-down.jpg

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

Well, the bar thing didn't work. The brake master cylinder would need moving somewhere... which would be near impossible.

Gazdaman,

In your pic you are hardly leaning forward on the bike. You can move back far enough in the seat to slide off of it wthout the tank getting in the way.

I'm stretched clear across my bike and can't move my arse further back in the seat... hence I can't move my hips around the tank enough to hang off properly.

I believe that on my TT600 it will be easier, we shall just have to wait and see!
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Finglonga · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Karma :

From your top picture all you need to do is slide you bum off a bit more and push your knee out/down, you dont need to get the bike over any further.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=14454

Bike at same angle..

https://www.penson.dabsol.co.uk/sponge/images/knee_down_2.jpg
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Demonic69 · The Pink Rhino Joined: 31 May 2002 Karma :

If you buy some normal risers it will bring the bars up and a little closer. Or you could just hang off and stop making excuses Razz

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Stew · Posted: 22:29 - 12 Apr 2005 Post subject:

I think you will be able to do it Marjay, just need to get yourself into a position that you feel comfortable with. After all little Capirossi manages on what is probably the biggest MotoGP bike in the series. Cool

https://www.ducati.com/docs_eng/downloads/wallpaper/gp4/36_800.jpg
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