I know it has been asked before . . . but . . CBR 6 or ZX6R?

Gracie Jones · Trackday Trickster Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Karma :

I looked in the search, but couldn't find the thread.

Anyway, ultimately I know the answer is "test ride and make up your mind" - but any views welcomed.

I need to comute on it, but as long as it is bearable and not too crap at the comute job, I don't mind, as long as it will be fun.

I ride a fazer 6 1999 plate atm. Wanted to go bigger or big twin, but insurance is a killer for me as in a bad london post code.

Anyone got a view? I am looking to spend £2.5k by the way.

Cheers all

Luke

Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

There's really nothing in it between the two.

You'll get a newer Kwak for your money though, as the CBRs hold their value better.

tony532 · World Chat Champion Joined: 29 May 2004 Karma :

you will be in for a shock commuting long distances on a sports bike compared to a fazer.

how far do you commute?

JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

It's all in the looks.

Alternatively use the search function. Smile

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MissFickle · Nova Slayer Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Karma :

I would get the kwak .. buts thats only because i have one now. I suppose the cibber is a good all rounder though... But i prefer kwaks.

Nolongerhere · Trackday Trickster Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Karma :

I had a ZX6R J2 model lovely bike nice riding position and fun at the same time. Used to commute every day and it was fine also power wheelies quite nice too!!! Twisted Evil

Not the best round corners I found tho but still an amazing bike!!! Hope this helps

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

I found the zx6 has a slight bit more of an 'edge' in handling and power delivery.

I would avoid the pre 99 CBR's (jelly mould style).

splinter · Derestricted Danger Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Karma :

Another vote for ZX6R here.

I had a J1 for a while before a dry stone wall mangled it. Crying or Very sad

Very good allrounder.

I've ridden a couple of CBRs. (an '98 and a 2000) Not a massive amount of difference between the 2000 CBR and the ZXR really.

If you go for the ZX, make sure you get a green one. They go faster! Very Happy

..... · Quote Me Happy Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Karma :

I would go for the Kwak. I'm not a big fan of most CBRs (apart from the RR of course).

The CBR is a bit too much of an all rounder for me - the ZX6R is more focused - which I like Thumbs Up

woo · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Karma :

Screw the kwak, the bloody rust bucket!! Evil or Very Mad

Get a suzuki gsxr600 k1-k3 Laughing

i got mine for £2500 off ebay even though its cat d on the insurance register im still a happybunny, there are bargins out there you just have to search. Smile

saints7 · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 04 Jan 2005 Karma :

ZX6R without fail

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niff5855 · Sausage Boy Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Karma :

ZX6R - Green.
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Mr.Everready · World Chat Champion Joined: 28 Mar 2003 Karma :

Looks like the Ninja is winning the vote Razz

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california_rookie · World Chat Champion Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Karma :

It it were a fight between the 2005 models, I'd be rooting for the Honda. Thumbs Up

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Mantzy · Spanner Monkey Joined: 30 May 2004 Karma :

I had the same dilemma. Chose the Kwacker. It was cheaper, better condition, and had more "Grrr...I'm a psycho" about it. Plus the air induction sounds lovely and is highly addictive.

Go for a J or newer model (2000 onwards). I have a 99 G but the look of the J is much nicer though only the nose is different (and the clocks) - everything else is pretty much the same.

If you go CBR, go for an FX or newer (99 onwards).

Either one, bound to be fun. I commute on mine 40ish miles a couple times a week. Not too painful but more so than your Fazer. Get a DB screen though, the one that comes with the ZX6 isn't very good if commuting.
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Gracie Jones · Trackday Trickster Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Karma :

Cheers for all your input dudes.

Just when I was slagging off my monthly subscription - "Oh great another review of what is the best sports 600 - its been ages since they've done one of those" - it turns out I need advice on it.

Does indeed look like the Kwak wins. £2.5K is my upper limit, and that kind of settles it really. It is quite tricky to get a CBR 99+ for any less than that with reasonable miles. Will get a better condition Kwak.

And I do so want to be a bad-ass. I am so not a bad-ass . . . but I will be with a Kwak and a pipe and maybe some Terminator Sun Glasses, some neon lights, small plate and furry dice.

You know that scene in BMX Bandits where Goose is stuck in a pit with Nicole Kidman and moves in for the smooch?

NK: Eerm (moves away) I'm sorry Goose

Goose: Ah, its TJ isn't it?

NK: Nooo, you're great, you're a really nice guy -

Goose: It's TJ

NK: But I you're really nice

Goose: Yeah, I don't wanna be nice. I wanna be sexy.

Goose is the CBR and TJ is the Kwak. CBR is my spiritual brother, Kwak is the anti-Christ. I still think the CBR is cool though.

Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

You'll be looking real badass sitting on the hard shoulder waiting for the AA man. Laughing

BLOFLY 636 · Brolly Dolly Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Karma :

go the honda!!! nah I'm kidding The ZX-6R is great and will ensure you smiles a plenty! cool design, good power sharp handling and great brakes make it a good value for money middle weight punter, the only down side I can see is long rides on straight roads, the vibes in the bars and pegs can make you feel like your fingers have seized up and your toes are melting it's weird Wink

other than that it's more bike than many of us can use to it's limits Thumbs Up

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cc123 · Geez a joab? Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Karma :

Gracie, still selling mines, much cheapness.....
Good repair job too Thumbs Up

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Gracie Jones · Trackday Trickster Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Karma :

Hmmm, not convinced having read about your difficulties putting it back together again. With a hammer Wink

OK, how much? Photos . . .

Villers · World Chat Champion Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Karma :

Had the luck of riding bot, best mate has the Kwak and I have the CBR.

Im only a short arse but can manage both feet on the ground almost flat on my cbr, no where near on the kwak. The weight feels to be a bit high and and tends to lean slowly then quickly for me.

Kwak feels faster but when we are out theres no difference. The kwak does sound better, has a far louder induction roar.

Mines a 2000 his is a 1998 (or 1997 can't remember) but his has a better dash with some digital parts, a better seat, better under seat storage and looks far better in my opinion.

His has gave him far more trouble than mine, especialy considering mine has been abused all its life and his has been cotton-woolled but as far as I hear thats common for them. His valve clearances went at 11,000 miles whereas the reccomended first check for the cbr is 16,000. I guess the cbr will be cheaper to insure too.

either way good luck!