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PostPosted: 19:25 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Braided lines Reply with quote

Hi all, looking to upgrade my brakes (possibly).

Or at least have them in for when i get bored during the holidays.

Anyways, egay has two goodridge sets on sale, one is double the price of the other.

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Is there REALLY /that/ much difference in quality and stopping power between them? Also what was this guff i recall about corrosion being accelerated by certain metals with different ionic qualities being adjacent or such? And which metals should i watch out for?
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just get yourself a decent pair of brake pads like Carbone Lorraine A3+ Sintered Pads, or EBC HH's. Standard Rubber hoses are perfectly fine aslong as they are not bulging due to age or anything.
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

CraigZZR wrote:
Just get yourself a decent pair of brake pads like Carbone Lorraine A3+ Sintered Pads, or EBC HH's. Standard Rubber hoses are perfectly fine aslong as they are not bulging due to age or anything.


Brake travel varies alot, as does feel etc etc. Sometimes they are next to solid and breaking is beautiful, sometime i feel i could smack bar.

And still havent done a rolling stoppy Mad
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree, rubber hoses are shite. You might not notice a great deal of difference on a bike with twin discs, multi-pot opposing callipers etc but the difference they made to the single 2-pot sliding calliper on my GPZ500 was astounding. Probably the single best thing I ever did to that bike and only cost 15 quid.

Equally replacing the cable on a drum braked bike with car handbrake cable makes a huge difference.
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yes, do get the stainless steel braided ones with the stainless steel fittings and you're better to do reverse bleeding to avoid air bubbles and if you have twin front disks then reverse bleed them at the same time.

You'll definitely notice a difference in them because they can be vicious if bleed properly and the steel braiding helps to prevent expansion of the brake line.
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my hoses from Wez, he's a top bloke and regular poster on GB Bikers. I got the budget ones. TBH Theres not much difference between them. The top ones come in a coloured protective sleeve. The budget one also come in a protective sleeve but its colourless.

Buy em mate, cosmetic benefit alone is worth it!
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PostPosted: 08:08 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i recently had HEL lines fitted to my zx6r front and back....


now the brakes are fecking scary Laughing.


but as said above rubber ones are fine, i got braided because my rubber ones were fucked and kawasaki were asking silly money for new ones.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the noticable benefit is from fresh brake fluid I would suggest.
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarkR1 wrote:
Most of the noticable benefit is from fresh brake fluid I would suggest.


I should imagine that simply getting new brake lines, rubber or otherwise give a significant effect anyway. It's when the lines are a few years old, then you need to get another set of rubber lines, whereas, in theory at least, the performance of the braided ones won't have deteriorated so much.

Brake lines need replacing every 4 years, and brake fluid every 2 years according to the operation instruction manual with my bike.
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can recommend Hel brake lines, excellent quality (built to order), customer service and they even come with a lifetime guarantee.

E-mail: stu@TFRracing.com for 25% off.
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been meaning to get braided lines for my bike for ages now. Heard of the benefits, a few of my mates have got HEL braided lines on there brakes...
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danny wrote:
I can recommend Hel brake lines, excellent quality (built to order), customer service and they even come with a lifetime guarantee.

E-mail: stu@TFRracing.com for 25% off.


25% off of what? I dont know how much he is to start with Laughing

I dunno, might pick up a cheap set. Just hassle fitting aswell, but i know theres a twin disc guide on here somewhere, and i swapped hoses on the hartford without any drama.

And i have a syringe now Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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25% off of what? I dont know how much he is to start with Laughing
25% off whatever the price is for your bike and specifications.
I dug out the E-mail addy for you, I'm not going to start ringing round for quotes. Razz
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danny wrote:
bonny_ricardo wrote:
25% off of what? I dont know how much he is to start with Laughing
25% off whatever the price is for your bike and specifications.
I dug out the E-mail addy for you, I'm not going to start ringing round for quotes. Razz


Hehe dont even get me started on that....

Who knows how much more on insurance im paying.

Laughing

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PostPosted: 14:56 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hel have all the prices on their web site. I fitted a set to my Hornet 6 (got discount with the nest) and they are realy good. Bleadign took a while but i only used a simple tube rather than an uber bleading kit.
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danny wrote:
I'm not going to start ringing round for quotes. Razz


I remember the old Danny. Sad
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:


Equally replacing the cable on a drum braked bike with car handbrake cable makes a huge difference.


Sounds like a good idea. The drum brake of my CB500 has started to get sticky so I don't use it anymore, so when I get around to servicing it I might try that.

Think I'll also try the braided hoses as I think the braking is a tad squidgy these days. I seem to remember there being a good guide to bleeding your brakes somewhere on BCF...
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Major_Grooves wrote:
I seem to remember there being a good guide to bleeding your brakes somewhere on BCF...

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=17099 Smile

Works well or at least has the several times I've followed that guide. For just bleeding your brakes rather than complete fitting braided hoses, just follow the guide from point 6.
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Major_Grooves wrote:

Sounds like a good idea. The drum brake of my CB500 has started to get sticky so I don't use it anymore, so when I get around to servicing it I might try that.


AFAIK there is no cable on the rear brake of the CB500, its actuated by a rod, atleast it is on the GPZ I own too.
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

CraigZZR wrote:


AFAIK there is no cable on the rear brake of the CB500, its actuated by a rod, atleast it is on the GPZ I own too.


Doh! Yeah you're right. Oh well, I guess It just needs some grease.
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the cable point, I was referring to front brakes in the main. Car handbrake cable is about double the thickness of normal brake cable and so stretches hardly at all. You need to drill out the nipples before soldering and may need to modify the lever mounting to take the ferrules but it certainly made the braking action feel a lot more positive on my old T500. You still need forearms like popeye to get it to do anything but it does at least have a slight slowing effect unlike previously.
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Under no circumstances buy hoses with alloy fittings. They corrode, and the first you may know about that corrosion is when you have no brakes at 100mph.

Personally I prefer rubber hoses, but the GPZ500 might well do well on braided hoses as it seems the ratio of the master cylinder to the caliper is miles out.

Also worth considering putting new seals in the calipers at the same time.

My 1200 Bandit still has the original rubber hoses at 8 years old. And they are still on the setting closest to the handlebars.

All the best

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