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PostPosted: 22:18 - 19 Apr 2005    Post subject: How much life left in a 25k miles CG125 made in 2000? Reply with quote

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OK, I've been offered this CG125 on ebay which I've accepted - what does everyone think? The owner says he's not aware of anything wrong with it, only downside is it has 24k miles on the clock which is pretty high for a five year old bike - however, the price is fairly good (I think...?). Am I right in thinking that it has bucket loads of life left in it despite being on 24k miles? Should I be expecting to have to repair anything soon? It's a long way from where I live (it's in Bradford and I live in Oxford!!!) so I'll have to drive it home Sad but unless anyone knows of a cheap delivery service, I can't think of any other way of getting it here.

It had a new sprocket + chain last year, rear tyre only has 3mm left so will need replacing soon, but I'm pretty happy.

So, unless people here put me off, I'm going to pick it up ASAP, and I'll put some pictures up!

I'm very excited; it'll be great to finally have a real bike! (OK, a geared 125cc bike)


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PostPosted: 22:33 - 19 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happened to the NS? Sad

As for the CG, it doesn't look bad at all. But as you said, 24K miles is a large amount for a 5 year old bike. But being a CG, its pretty much bulletproof, so in its eyes, 24K is nothing. Should still give you a long while of good service. Performance wise, your looking about a nice 70-75mph I would say. Which I guess isn't bad, but riding it back from Bradford might be quite a task. Your choice though. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 19 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I know the NS was a fantastic bike - but it went for £620, which was more than the Used Bike Guide said it was worth, oh and I got cold feet about buying a twenty-year old two-stroke bike. If it had gone cheaply I'd have bid, but it seemed like a lot to spend on a bike that might break Sad

So, not very brave to go for a CG, I know - but I decided that durability is more important than fun - I can always go for a fun bike once I start work next year and can afford a bigger bike, and have the all-important licence! I'm slightly nervous about the high mileage, but I don't think there's such a thing as a cheap, low-mileage yr 2000 CG.

Anyway, bullet-proof-ness here I come. Weeeeeee!!!
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 19 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

wouldnt worry to much about the mileage.. the CG engines will go round the world and back... Bullet Proof... Cheap to run & insure... and if your paying the £550 that the auctions ended at and you look after it you'll get your money back in 12 months!!

Give it a good going over when you get it back.. and it will last you as long as you want it to....
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 19 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool, thanks for the opinion! I need a bit of reassurance that I haven't just wasted £550 (+ insurance fees + train fare) Confused

I know it's not much, but as I'm still a student until next year, I'd be quite annoyed if it blew up after I got it.
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PostPosted: 00:58 - 20 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I shouldn't expect it to blow up for the next 10-15k miles or so. Oil changes and valve clearances are almost all that really needs doing I should think. (Air filter might not hurt though).

30-40k miles seems to be a fairly common mileage for the engines to start to go, according to the Used Bike Guide, and according to my mum's 12 yr old CG w/ 33k miles in the workshop. Laughing
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PostPosted: 01:19 - 20 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Valve clearances are quite expensive to adjust though, I think? I wouldn't mind learning to do it myself, but I have neither experience nor masses of free time, so might be forced to pay someone else to do it.

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Also ( stupid question alert) how much does it cost to replace an engine?

James

PS I've been looking through old posts; I'm impressed that, although the same questions seems to be asked 500 times a week (e.g. should I buy a CG125...!), everyone answers them politely Smile Thumbs Up
PPS I got the latest copy of UBG but there were no specs on how long a CG engine lasts; was that an old article?
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 20 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

£100 for new engine? maybe lil more, when i say new i do mean from a scrappy, maybe a crashed bike with enginer only few thousand on the clock. but don't thrash it and don't neglect oil changes and you'll be fine. I did my training on cg125 and whilst i didn't like it one bit they have that duability and learner friendly appeal. I'm just too used to my 2 smoke enduro bikes, had keep revving the cg's engine cos i couldn't hear it on tick over thought it had stalled!
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 20 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

CG125 valve clearances are very very easy to set, as they are locknuts and rocker arms, no shims. It's a case of taking the rocker cover off, adjusting the tappets, replacing the gasket and putting the cover back on. Specialist tools : feeler gauge, weeny spanners. Should take an hour max even for someone with little experience. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 20 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

jimster wrote:
oh and I got cold feet about buying a twenty-year old two-stroke bike.


Hehe, I have two twenty year old 2 stroke bikes, don't really have a problem with them, apart from the fact they can be prone to seizing Sad But with an engine rebuild, replace gaskets and bearings, it should be fine for another 10-15K miles. But then again, the CG will most likely not need an engine rebuild for a long long while yet. You made a good choice in choosing a bullet proof bike.
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 20 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Long drive to Oxford, your going to be averaging 55 - 60.

Sometimes a bit more.
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 20 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some bikes will be fine after 80,000 miles (this months Bike got a VFR with what they claim to be the highest mileage) yet others get ten yards out the showroom and cause months of headache.

All you can do is make sure its been serviced an taken care of, and hope you get lucky in the end.

CG's are solid and usually refuse to break, so in theory it should be alright for several thousand (5+) yet. But no one can be exact, once a bike done alot of miles its down to the bike itself... what its been through, how well it was built individually etc.

Good luck with it though Thumbs Up

(edit - missed the point of my post!)

When you come to sell it, dont do it over ebay etc... go private. You probably will get exactly what you paid for it back, or even more if your lucky and keep it in good nick.

You get a good deal over Ebay... so might as well make what money you can.
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PostPosted: 01:48 - 21 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

CG125. Oooh, uve got atleast another 100,000 miles left yet! Laughing Wink

CG125s are very VERY tough old bikes, can take alot of abuse and last forever! Just like the SR125. Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 02:21 - 21 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

mondeokid wrote:
Long drive to Oxford, your going to be averaging 55 - 60..


If that. When I bought my previous 50cc scooter, I had it delivered to my mum's home in Exeter. Then I realised I was going to need it in Oxford for when I went back to carry on my studies. Brick Wall

I even tried to *pay* someone to transport it to Oxford, but people kept quoting me £200 or £300, and van hire was a no-no as I've only had my car licence for a year. And since the bike itself cost £300 inc. delivery Embarassed no way was I paying that!!! So in the end, I drove it from Exeter to Oxford (and then some gimp nicked it from my driveway a month later...boy would I love to be in a soundproof room with that thief and a big, meaty spanner Evil or Very Mad )

And yes, that is 220 miles on a bike averaging 22mph (and that was on the speedo...). Needless to say, I set off early in the morning and arrived late at night, cold and scared crapless by being overtaken five times a minute by cars for 12 hours. The petrol tank was full when I set off, and I put £2.50 of fuel in during the day, and it was still virtually full when I arrived. So in terms of pence per mile travelled I guess it would probably beat even walking! (since shoe wear aint irrelevant Laughing )

Anyway, I guess I can cope with the tedium of driving a bike from Bradford to Oxford and 55mph is going to feel pretty great in comparison to 22mph.

However if anyone else can come up with cheap ways to get a bike from there to here, feel free to let me know Razz


-edit- now I need to sort out some clothes! I've only got a cheapo helmet which isn't exactly full protection...I saw a leather motorcycle jacket and trousers in Oxfam a couple of days ago (£40 though!) and I really should sort out motorbike gloves; I always religiously wear cycling gloves if I'm going out for more than a trip into town and yet on a scooter I wear nothing. Hmm.
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 21 Apr 2005    Post subject: Re: How much life left in a 25k miles CG125 made in 2000? Reply with quote

jimster wrote:
only downside is it has 24k miles on the clock which is pretty high for a five year old bike


My CBR's similar age and has done similar mileage, I wouldn't worry about it at all on a CG. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 21 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

if its on a flat it will do about 65 (Thats what mine does anyway)

Have you passed your test.

Wouldn't fancy Oxford from Bradford on the A roads.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 21 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I haven't passed my bike test (other than CBT) but I have a full car licence.

And you're right, it'll be a rubbish ride, but I'll aim to ride on B-roads as much as possible.
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, A roads aren't fun on a CG! I've just started commuting on mine and now I'm not stalling it all the time it's brilliant in town. Quicker than most cars from the lights and faster than the local swarms of peds, so its all fun! I'm not great on corners yet, always going wide, and I always slow down waaaaaay to early for junctions, suppose I don't trust the drum brakes! Anyway, I'd recommend a CG for a first bike, it hasn't done me any harm. Yet.
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose the silly thing is, once I finish my studies at the end of June, I'm going on holiday for at least a couple of months, so I'll only actually have the bike until the beginning of July! Brick Wall

I'm going to lend it to my little bro though, assuming it still works at that point.
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

About another 15,000 miles id say, then it might start to need major surgery to get it alive again. Still for £550 its a good price and you definately wont loose money on it.
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 24 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you definitely got her then?
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Josh|RD125LC wrote:
Have you definitely got her then?


Yup! Very Happy

I'm going to go pick it up this weekend. My granny lives in Harrogate, only 20 miles from Bradford, so I'm going to drive over there and visit her for a long weekend.

That'll give me the chance to drive it around for a couple of days to check everything's OK with it and have a bit of practice on short journeys before taking it the 220 miles back to Oxford Shocked

I'm a bit worried about what to do if it rains on the way home - apart from a helmet, I've got no motorbike gear at all! I've got some cycling gear which might be OK, and a waterproof/windproof canoe top which I'll take as well. I want to try and buy a cheap pair of motorbike gloves and some wellies to wear as well - anyone got tips on suitable clothes? Waterproof trousers sound like a good idea as well. I don't want to get cold!

Lots to think about...

PS I'll post pics once I get it, although frankly it's a CG 125, so everyone knows what it looks like (and if you don't, then you won't remotely care what it looks like) Smile
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd recommend a pair of army boots over a pair of wellies. The most important thing for riding (rather than falling off) is that you're waterproof and windproof. A pair of gloves is a must too, a bumble bee/ piece of gravel/ whatever on your knuckles at 50mph really will hurt. Lacking any electrical equipment (heated clothing), plenty of layers won't be a bad idea. So long as it's not wet, a pair of jeans is better than nothing.
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