Bandit6 exhaust advice.

[Keith]

Evening, ladies and gentlemen.

After a long wait, my Scorpion race can finally arrived so I thought I'd fit it. As I removed the stock can, a nice chunk of rust and rot from the collector box also decided to part from the bike as well.

I attempted to fit the race can but it was blowing too much, so back to the stock can it was. Well the box is still blowing (where the link pipe slips in) but not half as bad. It obviously needs repairing, but I'm not sure which route to take. Theres several new systems on ebay at the moment, noticed a full titanium system and another stainless one with a £230 buy it now.

I also looked into banditmania.co.uk and found that they do the collector box repair for £65 + whatever it costs to post the system to them. Does anyone have any experience with BanditMania? I'm a bit uncertain about sending my pipework off to them and how well the new box will be put together.

Its really annoyed me that the box decided to drop to bits as I rely on my bike for transport. (At least my father has said I can borrow his should I need to, I dont fancy riding a bike with a blowing exhaust.)

Either way, I'll be spending a fair bit of my 18th birthday money on sorting it.

Odd scenario, but any advice will be appreciated.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

It is a Bandit. They do that. Mine did.

Banditmania have been around for quite a while. They should know what they are doing.

All the best

Keith
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[Keith]

[garry]

phone round the breakers mate !!! 600 bandits are plentiful , you should get change outa £30 ........

dont panic ... just shop around ..

[bumper]

my chaps did the same thing when he put his can on so he just stainless steel welded it and everything seems fine at the minute.........

[Kris]

Blimey, I've just had the exact same thing happen to me

The original Suzuki clamp had rotted away along with the bottom of the collector, which had actually snapped off a bit. In effect, the actual collector pipe was now in two parts and was blowing like crazy.

I bought a set of stainless steel headers off of eBay (£225) and they seem okay. Got the local bike shop to fit the silencer to them though - needed a new exhaust gasket and better clamp. The mechanic had seen it loads of times before - he reckons it's where condensation runs down and sits in the collector area inside the pipe. It's only cheap mild steel anyway. He offered to weld it in situ but actually recommended replacing with stainless ones.
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[Keith]

[Kris]

[Kris]

oh and the pipes I bought were from trackandrace on eBay. Check out their eBay shop. Fitted well and came as a whole piece which bolts straight on - no messing.
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[Keith]

Thanks for that.

I've had a look through his shop but there doesnt seem to be any for sale. I sent him an e-mail anyway. He might be able to host some up for me, if I'm lucky.

The rest of the pipework looks really good, I just hope he has some for the bandit.

Cheers for the heads-up on that one.
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[Keith]

Thanks a lot for the help, Kris.

I called up and ordered the pipework from track & race products. Decided I'd pay that bit extra for something that looked far better quality than the cheaper ones I had my eye on. Also got in touch with Bandit Mania for all the new bolts, clamps and gaskets. So now I'm totally penny-less, and in some debt with the parents.

At least my father said if I pay for all the parts, he'll pay to get them fitted properly. (Stopped by my local mechanic yesterday, he said if it all goes smoothly, it'll be about £35 to fit the system, top to bottom.)

Cheers for the help.
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[Kris]

No worries


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[Keith]

Well thats a kick in the teeth.

My pipework arrived the other day, all looked very nice indeed, well put together. So I booked it with my mechanic. He yanked the old ones off no problem and fitted the new ones. All hunky dory. He came to fit the Scorpion can and not only was the link pipe way too small to connect with the collector box, (even with that little gasket thing) it was also way out of line with the passenger peg bracket. I was at college at the time, so my dad told him to just fit the standard exhaust. Another problem. The standard can doesnt even connect up properly and is still blowing quite badly.

I lost the paper that I wrote the phone number for Track and Race Products and my sister deleted the e-mail which contained the number. Could anyone provide this? "Track and Race Products Limited," under the user of TrackandRace on ebay.

So now I have a bike which is even dodgier than it was before, which is still blowing badly and that my Scorpion can wont even connect with. By the looks of the collector box exit thing, its at too much of an angle. Makes me think I have the downpipes for the 2000- onwards Bandit6 and not the 96 bike.

Very frustrated as you can tell as I was looking forward to getting on it for the first time in a few weeks. With any luck, I'll post the downpipes back to Track & Race for a refund. The mechanic has told me that he can chop off the old rot and weld a new ring on, which I'll probably end up doing as a temporary solution.

Arghhhh!

Sorry to go on. I'm just fed up of not being able to use my bike.
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[Kris]

That's weird, mine fitted perfectly...

You need to e-mail Neil Hulme and tell him asap..

Neil Hulme
Track and Race Products,
4 Mavis Avenue
Ravenshead,
Mansfield,
Notts.
NG15 9EB

trackandrace@hotmail.com

Give him a contact number and ask him to call you.

Kris
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[Kris]

Any news?
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[Keith]

I got an email back quicker than expected, with a phone number. Gave Neil a call and told him the situation. He informed me that he'd sold many of these exhausts before and not one customer had any problems with fitting. Anyway, he was really helpful, just said that it might be a little more tricky to fit the can and said if I wanted a refund, that was ok.

So went back to the mechanic (with my dad, who is an engineer and knows all about pipework ) and played around with it for a while. The exit of the collector box was indeed a bit big for the link pipe, but some exhaust paste stuff soon sorted that. Its still blowing slightly but its working to my advantage as it gets rid of the built up condensation.

Sounded god-like when it fired up! Scorpion is a bit louder than expected, but no worries, I have the DB killer should it have to be fitted at any point. Either way, its on, it rides and it certainly sounds the part.

Going to get it on the dyno, see if it could do with some carburation alterations as I noticed the scorpion has screwed up low rev power delivery, (until after about 3,500rpm) and just to make sure its running perfect on the whole.

https://img27.echo.cx/img27/4058/copyofpict00126oe.jpg

Here she is, looking very nice indeed. She'll be getting a good clean this weekend, as well as a little service. Oil/oil filter change, clean air filter, check brakes & all those other little things. Just make sure its running well.

Will have to phone Neil again tomorrow and apologise for wasting his time earlier, thank him for being patient!
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[Dom]

That's before a good clean?

Looks very tidy... any chance of a sound clip (I only want a bandit if you can well and truly fix the near silence it produces as standard )?

[Kris]

Neil's a decent chap to deal with.

I know what you mean about the collector being too large for the link pipe - although it is meant to be like that. The large washer that goes in there packs it out considerably, plus there should be slots cut out so that it can close around the pipe when you put the bracket on and tighten.(Although mine has hardly closed up at all ) If I were you I'd junk the standard bracket that you've used (little chrome piece on it) and get a meatier one from the local garage/Halfords.

Still, your mechanic really shouldn't have had any problems

Anyway, glad it's sorted.
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[Keith]

[3806danny]

my 1 fell apart as well gum gum or new down pipes?