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zephyrgirl
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Lucky police escape? Reply with quote

Was riding home yesterday evening and filtered up to the front of a set of traffic lights.
The road is a section of dual carriageway (no barriers) and is a 40mph limit.

Well, I was between the two lanes of traffic and, as I do sometimes, I ragged the bike off the lights. I just love the acceleration buzz & leaving the cars behind. I only ride 'briskly' up to the 40 limit and then cruise along at 40.

I looked in my mirrors to get the satisfaction of seeing the cars get small, when I saw the flashing blue lights of a traffic police Volvo...
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Arse, I thought.

I slowed down and went through the gears as I approached the next set of traffic lights. There was a red car behind me that pulled over and the police car sat directly behind me as I slowed. He made no effort to overtake in the right hand lane until I was practically at a standstill. He then went past me and slowed in front of me. I was just about to come completely to a stop & prepare to put the stand down, when he suddenly speeded up and went through the lights up towards Portsdown Hill.

I can only imagine that he had something more pressing to attend to.

I was just getting the adrenaline flowing as well, in anticipation of some sort of confrontation......
I wasn't speeding, wheeling (as if!) or doing anything naughty. Although, I was wearing my black visor, but was carrying my legal one in case of being stopped/poor visiblity etc.
I almost wanted him to stop me in order to question why. Twisted Evil

Another thing is that I didn't even see him until he was behind me, I cannot, for the life of me, recall if he was in the queue of cars at the lights that I filtered through! Autopilot strikes again!
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coming back from uni in the dark, I had a police car come flying up behind me with its lights on. As soon as it had got behind me, it turned its lights off, and stayed there for about the next 5 miles until the next roundabout, whereupon it buggered off.

Weird. Mind you, as it was dark I've no idea how much traffic I was holding up, but I wasn't losing too much to the guy in front really.

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PostPosted: 13:08 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you allowed to work your way up inbetween traffic?
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

They tend to do that i have been followed home by the police a couple of times. I think they are just waiting for you to slip up. Something against bikers i think expecting us to tear ass around all the time!
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had similar in the past from just riding down the road. Volvo pulled right up behind me, then along side and finally pulled in front, where the driver and passenger both turned around in their seats to stare. I got to the point where I was just going to pull over and ask them what the f*ck they wanted, then they buggered off. Nothing better to do.
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you allowed to work your way up inbetween traffic?


That's what bikes are for!! Very Happy

When I see the red tail lights up ahead I have a reflex grin that smirks all over my face!

I must admit that I am bit more careful when filtering single lane traffic coming up to pedestrian crossings, roundabouts/junctions and anywhere with zig-zags (school etc)

I crossed double white lines this very morning while passing a long queue of traffic following a steamroller travelling at <3mph. The road ahead was long, straight & clear and overtaking on double whites is OK if traffic is stationary, so I've been told. (This traffic was practically at a standstill and I was being overtaken by a young mum walking to school with her toddler, FFS!)

So, yes you can filter through slow moving/stationary traffic.
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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overtaking on double whites is OK if traffic is stationary


/Zephyrgirl prepares to be corrected......./
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can never cross a solid white line. if you can overtake on the inside of it without going over then you have done nothing wrong.
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if you can overtake on the inside of it without going over


That's just what I did........ Rolling Eyes

Well, when the dumb ass cars weren't meandering over the road, angling to get past themselves!
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the Highway Code.

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108: Double white lines where the line nearest you is solid. This means you MUST NOT cross or straddle it unless it is safe and you need to enter adjoining premises or a side road. You may cross the line if necessary to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10mph or less.
Laws RTA sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 26
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^^^^^

Thanks for that!

Phew!
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Technically it's illegal isn't it, but I'd imagine most coppers would see it as a matter of common sense. If it's a nice straight road which is clogged up with traffic, no-one coming the other way, I think it would have to be a really pissed off copper to ticket you. 'Course, they exist...
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually you will get done if they see you do it on the open road. I have always interpreted it the same way as zephyrgirl.

They could try to pull you over for undue care though, it can have a bit of a loose interpretation depending on the copper. Probably more likely to try and "educate" you. Think, if I remember correctly, that you aren't supposed to pass the lead vehicle at a junction.


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PostPosted: 13:42 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

TBH Rookie biker, after my pseudo scare last night I was extra wary this morning when I considered overtaking the queue.

A traffic cop actually went past in the opposite direction a minute before I decided to just go for it and get past them all.

I thought to myself, 'Well, hopefully there won't be one along for a little bit now.' Wink
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

zephyrgirl wrote:

/Zephyrgirl prepares to be corrected......./


but why?? no correction is needed Laughing

Filtering is entirely legal in the UK, providing that it is done in a manner that can be deemed to be safe by an observing Police Officer. Normally, once traffic speeds are high enough to suggest that the traffic is no longer queuing (normally around the 20mph mark), then then manoeuvre may be regarded as a dangerous overtake.

zephyrgirl wrote:
overtaking on double whites is OK if traffic is stationary


taken direct from the highway code:

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Double white lines where the line nearest you is solid or both are solid. This means you MUST NOT cross or straddle it unless it is safe and you need to enter adjoining premises or a side road.
You may cross the line if necessary to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10mph or less.

Stationary can be used to describe ANY vehicle that is traveling at less than 10mph.


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PostPosted: 13:45 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny, thought that's what I said. Wink
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

dainesefreak wrote:
Funny, thought that's what I said. Wink


yeah.. I got distracted in the middle of posting mine.. hit Submit and another ruck of replies above mine.. oh well.. at least the answer was the same!!! Razz
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

kaillum wrote:

Stationary can be used to describe ANY vehicle that is traveling at less than 10mph.


Not true unfortunately. A queue of traffic in not considered stationary so you can't cross the double white lines.
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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when he suddenly speeded up and went through the lights up towards Portsdown Hill


Im asuming that the bike in your avatar is yours, think i may have seen you a few times when i go home that way from work. If you do ahppen to see a Bright Red Suzuki Bandit around there, it will probably be me, ill try wave if i see you Razz[/quote]
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