rs50 to a gsxr 600

[JO5H]

hi,
i currently have a rs50 and im coming up to the age of 17 which means a bigger bike. im saving up to get a bigger bike which i think i will get a gsxr 600 restricted. i was wondering wat u think of me going straight from a 50 to a 600 is this insane or not. ive got two freinds who are doing the exact same thing as me. what do u think i should do get a 125,400 or a 600. i no that if i get a 600 i will have to be carefull and i no i wouldnt act like a dickhead on it. ive been on my mates rs125 and i shat myself on the but i cant imageine my self on a 600 but if it is restricted to 33 bhp trhat it is gonna go the same speed.
what do u people think i should do.
thanks josh.
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[RooRoo]

I'm not totally sure, but I think the performance of a 33bhp gsxr600 would be pretty piss poor.
I could be wrong though, but I know a lot of the bigger bikes handle restrictions badly

[0ni]

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[izzi81]

have you checked the cost of insurance? I'd imagine a 17yr old learner on a GSXR is going to be fairly pricey so you'll want to take that into consideration!
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Ste paid around £1k on insurance for a 600 and 17.

If it's restricted, I don't see it being a problem. Derestricted, you're talking a massive leap and one that could very easily see you and your bike wrecked if you're not careful.

[stef234stef]

If you have the money and thats the bike you want do it!

[mrchips]

You should be fine as long as you keep the restrictors in for a year.
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[Kye]

For a year? Then after a magic year you're suddenly capable for handling 100bhp

I wouldn't restrict it at all, you have an RS50 so already know control over geared bikes, and the 600's arn't excatly violent monsters, just take it steady at first and keep the rev's low, then build up your confidence and get gunning it.
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[mchaggis]

You think that everyone would be able to stop themselves from opening the throttle rather too quickly after having gotten used to having to use it like an on-off switch on a 50? I know I'd be pushed to keep perfect control of myself put upon a bike which has ten times the power and not much more weight than my bike, and which goes three times as quickly.

If there's one reason to get it restricted, its because you legally have to, so if you come off then you won't get in shit when the policeman asks you whether it's restricted and happens to check.

I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it's probably not a great idea for people coming straight from a 50.
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[numark1]

Do it if you want. Insurance is quite abit. I pay £1,300 TPO for my ZX6R at 17.

[Kye]

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There is a difference between being bored with a bike and being able to handle the power.

The newer 600s can be violent monsters in my opinion. Have you ridden one? Have you tried to abuse one?

If you're fine taking it easy, then not a problem; but then there's less point getting an incredibly fast sports bike.

Yes, they don't bike as much as a litre class bikes, but that's a whole load of power you've got on tap there.
The problems not clutch control in my opinion, but the easy of access to a lot of power. First gear will top out above 65mph and will throw you off very easily if abused.

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[Gazdaman]

Going from my 125 to a restricted 600 was a fair jump.

Going from a 50 to a 125 is a fair jump, I'd say jumping straight on a gixxer 6 is fairly suicidal.

Insurance will be stupid aswell, and it's a whole lot heavier, I'd say a whole lot of dropping is on the cards.

Gaz

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[izzi81]

[Claud 14.7 to 1]

I would go for a sports 400. They handle just as well if not better than 600s, are fast enough and easier to ride than 600s.

Once you have done the 400 stage and can ride it well: to its full potential then move up.

Having 100bhp and no clue how to use it is pointless, a 400 will make it easier and safer to learn how to ride a sports bike. Fast or slow.

If you crapped yourself on a 125 don't you think the 600 is a crazy step up as they are much faster than a 125.

And the insurance costs as well.

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[JonB]

I found the jump from my shitty 50 to a 4t 125 quite a jump, but I did get used to that after 3 days, but I am so glad I did that step now, if I went straight from my 50 to that 600 on the open road I would have died, that 3 days prepared me to stop being so aggresive with the throttle. With a 50 you need to pll the throttle back to get anywhere, on a 600 you only need to move it slightly and you are away. I am scared of riding my 600, but i'm sure in the end I will get used to the power and be able to get a bit more aggresive with the throttle.

My 600 is only a Bandit and that is no where near as powerful as a sportsbike, even my Dads Hornet is far more powerful in comparison. I wouldn't actually even have a go on a sports 600. They are scary. Maybe in a couple of years time.

If you want a 600 don't get a sports, if you want sports get a 400.
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[Bendy]

It all comes down to this.

Anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of how to change gear could leap on <insert world's scariest performance bike here> and operate it without crashing.

However, there is a big difference between operating it and *riding* it. It takes practice to get the most out of any bike, and the more powerful it is, the more potential there is for it to go wrong. Consider that I've had my 600 for over two years now, and I still cannot ride it to it's limits. Nor do I ever expect to be able to ride it to it's limits - modern sportsbikes are far better than the majority of us could ever hope to be.

Now. At 17 you are going to be getting completely ass-raped on insurance. So my logic says, why spend all that extra money to learn the first bits of handling a bigger bike? Get a 400, get a nekkid six, it's gonna cos you less and you'll learn just as much, if not more.

I guess I just don't see the hurry. You have your whole life to ride bikes, what's wrong with progressing up the food chain and having a go at mastering each step? Especially when it'll probably make you a better rider in the long run.

On the other hand, do what the fuck you like - if you want a sports 6 go get one. Makes no odds to me.

[Marcg868]

I agree with everybody else, Sports get a 400, a nice tidy ZXR 400 and if you must have a 600 get something simple like a Nice Bandit.
Im trying to choose between a Bandit and a sports 400 but i think im gonna take the bandit route becoz they look nice and the examples of 400's i've been to look at r wrecks!
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[JonB]

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[Gazdaman]

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I think you can sum up from this thread, RS50 > GSXr600 isn't a good idea.

Gaz

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