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Ric
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PostPosted: 01:49 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: what are your critical tools (base set) Reply with quote

my dad seems have to decieded im too old to choose my presents or even suggest them

he says 'your not using my tools anymore your getting them for your birthday now'

this is after the 3rd time he's lost his torque wrench in one day

so im tryin to make a list, all the more motorcycle handy bits

what your top tool?
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PostPosted: 01:55 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

1/2" Drive Socket Set or 3/8" Drive Socket Set WITH a torque spanner
1/4" Drive Socket Set
Dual Ring and open ended spanner set with at least an 8mm spanner and up
Spark Plug Socket Correct Size for your bike
Comprehensive Scredriver Set(Alot of older bikes have phillips screws and NO posidrive isnt good enough, posi knackers old phillips heads!)
Wire brush for cleaning plugs
Small funnel for oil changes etc
Plastic basin for oil changes
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PostPosted: 01:58 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Halfords do sets of varying prices...

Obviously the torque wrench...

Inspection lamp is handy, rubber mallet, screwdrivers/alan keys, soldering iron...

You could go on for a long time... to be honest your best just getting bits as you need them appart from sockets and the like (£20 for a set of 10 or % each Rolling Eyes)
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PostPosted: 02:35 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

- Ring and open spanners 8-20mm. In practise only need the 8, 10, 12, 14,17 and 19, but never mind.
- 3/8 inch drive socket set, though I should get a 1/2 inch drive set too for larger nuts.
- Screwdrivers of all shapes and sizes.
- Torque wrench.
- Funnels.
- Allen keys.
- Inspection lamp.
- Proper quality adjustable spanner and a big pair of pliers (for when nothing else fits).

That's about all I've used that I remember. Oh, mustn't forget the leather hammer for hitting things which aren't supposed to be hit.
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PostPosted: 02:55 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know because I have virtually every tool you can think of, Neatly hung up in my garage.
I couldnt get by without a socket set, a spanner set and a screwdriver set.
Id say:

Pliars
Screwdrivers
Sockets and spanners
Hammer
A screwdriver bit set and a bit holder (cant go wrong with these)

My fail safe tool kit is a spark plug remover, a cannister powered bunsen burner and a flat head screwdriver.

I keep these under my seat.

When the scooter dosent want to start, I take the plug out, take the filter off, Spray a bit of neat gas into the carb and then preheat the plug.

Bike will then start! Laughing

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PostPosted: 03:23 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't waste your money on a 1/2 drive socket set, get 1/4 & 3/8 drives. If ya need a 1/2 drive socket for something large just buy that particular socket & a 3/8 to 1/2 adaptor.


& just WTF is a "torque spanner"????

then take a peek at posts 78 thru 84 in this thread for some pictorial clues...:
https://www.visordown.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204811&page=6
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PostPosted: 06:12 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

torque spanner is a torque wrench if you arent american.
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PostPosted: 06:23 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

bish777 wrote:
torque spanner is a torque wrench if you arent american.

No it bloody isn't, I have UK mechanic's teaching credentials & this post is the ONLY time I've heard some dipshit call ANY tool a *torque spanner".... Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 07:23 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

Breaker bar I find useful with some larger sockets for rear wheel, etc.
Various length and head screwdrivers.

I dunno you kinda need new tools as you go along as each job can require another tool. Just get the main ones and buy the others as you need them.

Some tools make the job sooo much easier though. (I think dremel is on my wanted list).

You could spend a hell of a lot on tools. I just use my Dad's and make sure I always put them away properly, much cheaper and easier. Cool That's what I'd do.
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PostPosted: 07:25 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

and the most important thing a big can of WD40 Wink

socket sets and most tools you only get what you pay for if you buy cheep crap it will snap the first time you use it.Halfords do a profesinal range that are good quality and are not to dear and are garantied for life
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone explain what a drive socket set is? Also, when you buy a torque wrench, do you then have to get a set of erm . . . 'things' so it will fit different erm, nuts?

Ahem,

Thank you.
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

3/8 drive ratchet and sockets ranging from 8mm to 21mm short
1/4 drive ratchet and sockets ranging from 6mm to17mm deep
long and shot exension bars for above ratchets
two full sets of combination spanners ranging 6mm to 26mm
one set of decent screwdrivers
one set of cheap screwdrivers (for levering/aligning)
set of allen keys or allen sockets
set of torx sockets 3/8 drive sizes T6 to T18
one set of picks
one large knocking stick (rubber mallet)
one small ball pein hammer
cheap set of pliers and molegrips


Thats what I would consider a minimum effective tool kit, unless you are using them every day in your trade (as I did) then you don't need snapon or mac tools. At my highest point I had accrued over £2000 of Snapon tools.

some of the above can be picked up cheaply off the local market stalls but I would reccomend the Halfords range of tool's as a good medium between quality and expense.

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PostPosted: 11:02 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gracie Jones wrote:
Can someone explain what a drive socket set is? Also, when you buy a torque wrench, do you then have to get a set of erm . . . 'things' so it will fit different erm, nuts?

Ahem,

Thank you.


with all due respect I would suggest you take a car or bike maintenance course, as if you are asking questions like that your repairs are likely to only endanger yourself and others.

as to your question a socket set normally consists of several sockets to fit different size nuts and a ratchet which when attached to a selected socket allows you to exert twisting force on any given nut/bolt.
a torque wrench is much like a ratchet but will warn you by clicking when a certain tightness is achieved and yes you need to fit the right size socket.
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

bish777 wrote:
torque spanner is a torque wrench if you arent american.


yeah torque spanners, aren't they kept in the cupboard with the red and blue ignition sparks and the replacement spirit level bubbles..

oh and can you just pop down the local motorist centre and ask for a long weight....
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Retro-Man wrote:


as to your question a socket set normally consists of several sockets to fit different size nuts and a ratchet which when attached to a selected socket allows you to exert twisting force on any given nut/bolt.
a torque wrench is much like a ratchet but will warn you by clicking when a certain tightness is achieved and yes you need to fit the right size socket.


That was very helpful thank you.

Retro-Man wrote:
with all due respect I would suggest you take a car or bike maintenance course, as if you are asking questions like that your repairs are likely to only endanger yourself and others.


And that was just downright patronising.

With all due respect, I would suggest you don't use that tone with people, and go on a "people skills course", as if you are demonstrating that level of interpersonal skill, your actions are likely to endanger yourself and others.
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

4lb lump hammer
Mole grips
angle grinder


seems to work for me anyway. Shocked
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gracie Jones wrote:
And that was just downright patronising.

With all due respect, I would suggest you don't use that tone with people, and go on a "people skills course", as if you are demonstrating that level of interpersonal skill, your actions are likely to endanger yourself and others.


Are we having a bad day, honey? Laughing

I suspect that Retro-man probably forgot to put a smiley in. I don't think he meant to be patronising.
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ Sadie - not really bad day, but you are right.

@ Retro - sorry, didn't mean to harsh you out. Thanks for the pointers. You cunt. Wink Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Circlip pliers are a must !
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

absolutely essential item is one of those telescopic magnets like a pen that pulls out like an ariel but is magnetised for recovering the nut you just dropped down the side of the fairing. Helped my mate change the plugs on his Blackbird at the weekend and don't know how he would have managed without it. even strong enough to lift the plugs out.
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

3/8 and a 1/2 torque wrench
6mm-36mm spanners (plus varoius imperial)
1/2 various very large sockets
3/8 6mm-25mm socket set (plus varoius imperial)
1/4 6mm-20mm socket set
copper rawhide hammer
club hammer
cold chisel
4ft tommy bar
funnels
metric tapping set 3mm-25mm (with drill bits)
punchs
varoius insulated screw drivers
engineer square
crimper
rule
stanley knife
chain breaker
jeweler screw driver set
metric and imperial allen keys
metric allen "t" bars
heat gun
soldering iron
torch
2 ton SWL engine holst supened from celling
drills/jigsaw/angle grinder.
hacksaw
vice mounted on workbench
torque keys
4 large boxs containting 1000,s of metrice stainless bolts/nuts/washers 3mm-12mm
carb tune vaucum gauges
home made flywheel holder
flypress (for pressing in/out of bearings)
multimeter
molegrips
grips
metal shears
pilers
long nose pilers
cutters
various circilp pilers


big tubs of varoius greases, copper slip, cutting fluid, WD40, liqued sicone, super glue, yama bond, aredit, exhaust paint, four stoke and two stroke oils, chain lube, redex, varoius spray paint cans, metal poilsh, plastic poilsh, T cut, rubbing compound, filler, fiberglass matting and resin.


all of l can think off at the moment
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

tatters wrote:
all of l can think off at the moment


Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
No it bloody isn't, I have UK mechanic's teaching credentials & this post is the ONLY time I've heard some dipshit call ANY tool a *torque spanner".... Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


Actually , I have seen a "torque spanner", at Rolls, it was an open ended spanner that had a click handle like a normal torque wrench, there were a range of them, all preset to the allowable torque for the bolt that the spanner would fit. Wierd as fuck, never seen them before or since, they must have been hideously expensive, not to mention a pain to keep in calibration.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

looking at the cyclinder head nuts and base nuts on a classic british bike engine you would have to use a "torque spanner" to get the correct torque as its impossable to get a socket in there. (think most just guess the torque with a spanner)
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

while trying to find a pic of a "torque spanner", Google give 1700 hits for the term, so its reasonably common.
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