Ligaments and Ting

[WildGoose]

right....i would expect this to be a fairly limited knowledge subject for most of you, however

basically i have recently found out ive torn a ligament in my leg, and it was as a result of the bike accident last october, not happy that no one has been able to pick it up until now, surely its a basic step if someone is having joint problems and its not a bone, then they should check ligaments anyway this isnt a rant post

ive been told that at this stage it may be too far gone to operate on it, and i may only be able to do some physio to make it easier to live with...

this isnt acceptable to me, and i was wondering if anyone knew any different

i do not intend to live the rest of my life without being able to sprint, climb, play aggresive sports, im only 18 this shouldnt be happening to me now, and all because ive had a run of incomptent doctors, i cant believe the power these people have to potentially ruin your life, i hadnt really thought about it before

to be told you may have to deal with leg problems for the remainder of your life is not an easy thing to hear, especially as only 8 months ago i was in the best physical condition of my life and was loving how it felt, now i have lost a great deal of that due to 8 months of being fairly limited on what i can actually do

a note for anyone in the future. make sure you kick up a huge fuss and not be fobbed off, unfortunately i kind of knew this already but tend to be to soft and easy going to turn round to a doctor and say "oi sort it" and just tended to go along with their excuses

any feedback on ligaments or these kind of injuries would be appreciated, and how likely they are to be irepairable..

a rather disappointed Goose
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So in other words, he stopped you for being flagrantly in posession of a motorcycle in direct contravention of the Hippies, Darkies and People Whose Face I Don't Like The Look of (Police Powers) Act. 1976

[carvell]

Sorry I can't be any help for the leg thing, but if that is the case then you are looking at thousands of pounds of compensation from whoever said that it wasn't a problem and to leave it.

Good luck mate.
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[WildGoose]

yeh but am i gonna try and sue the MOD?
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So in other words, he stopped you for being flagrantly in posession of a motorcycle in direct contravention of the Hippies, Darkies and People Whose Face I Don't Like The Look of (Police Powers) Act. 1976

[carvell]

Ah, I thought it was a civilian doctor that said to leave it, then a surgeon cmdr. that said it was an issue.
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[WildGoose]

the surgeon commander picked it up as a problem, the original surgeon lt. was the twat who sent me to see telling me i was fine (it was at this point i should have pointed out i wasnt fine) but at the time i was rather bored of being confined to a base, and actually wanted to get on ship, as i was getting left behind on my course..

cant win
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So in other words, he stopped you for being flagrantly in posession of a motorcycle in direct contravention of the Hippies, Darkies and People Whose Face I Don't Like The Look of (Police Powers) Act. 1976

[silent]

sounds like the nhs trying to brush you off...if your thinking of sueing them, then maybe art of that should be that they payt for the costs of private care and treatement....i have a training doctor friend, so i dont know if she will know whether what they are telling you is true, but ill try to remember to ask her for ya!

Andy

[izzi81]

I have a friend who's a certified strength and conditioning coach, I could ask him what he thinks if you like. Which ligament is it you've damaged exactly? And it's definitely torn? he tore a ligament in his knee last year and has been working to strengthen it - the NHS gave him an appointment for about 8months after he did it, which was useless so he just worked on it himself in the gym and it seems to be OK now, at least he plans to play US football in the Autumn!

my email is isobel@eye-2i.net if you want to mail me, I'll be speaking to him tomorrow probably

[dainesefreak]

Have far have you taken it medically mate? Have you seen a specialist yet? You can ask your local GP for a referral to a specialist. I would see a decent specialist to see what they say first, the problem with GP's and the like is that they like to give out Antibiotics and not do much else.

It may also be worthwhile seeing a sports injuries physio as this kind of injury is more common to them and they may well have some advice that a non specialist won't have considered.

Good luck.

[MarJay]

Goose,

Viper?
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Ouch Goose.

Firstly doctors can be fairly useless. They are seeing loads of people and are working with a device that despite thousands of years of service in various models they still do not understand fully.

Taking legal action against the NHS is virtually impossible. Basically you not only have to show that they screwed up, but that if they had not screwed up then things would have been better. That is basically impossible.

I would agree with getting referred to a specialist. You may have to pay £100 or so for this, but once that is done they might well treat you as a private patient under the NHS.

All the best

Keith
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[izzi81]

I'd agree with the idea of seeing a specialist too. Find a good sports physio in your area, they should be able to help you and give you advice on exercises to strengthen the ligament - torn ligaments are a fairly common sports injury!

[JimboJ]

Well Goose have they said which ligament it is yet?

Like I said before I have had three replaced! they just replace them with other ligaments that aren't needed. They are definitly fobbing you off as far as I can see.

My doctor said to me that if I had my injury when i was 30 he wouldn't bother doing surgery because there's no point! Seems like he doesn't want to do it for one reason or another.

James
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[Viper]

Where abouts are we talking??

Injured/torn ligamants are fairly easy to test, especially in the knee (i am presuming) So you must have had some complete cripple of a doctor see you initially! You should of said you were still having pain. I could of had a look.

The knee ligaments are the most likely to 'go'. Particularly your anterior cruciate ligament (ACL). Particualrly after a sudden impact injury with a combination of twisting movement. I would be suprised you were able to walk at all intially, if you had suffered a complete tear. It may just be very stretched and lax from the impact, or suffered a partial tear of some sort.

People do live, and you can cope without them. But you need to have the right long term gradual rehab, to get you muscles working efficiently enough to support the job that the ACL would have done.
Heavy contact sports and activtity (even running) would be a definate no-no until you get it properly looked into and the appropraiate rehab. Otherwise you will start to strain the other cruciate and collateral ligaments. And the knee will not be stable. If it remains unstable and overused for to long, you will make you self prone to longterm reduced activity levels.

I need more details before i could advice really darl.


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[izzi81]

Quizzed my friend about this. If it happened 8 months ago and it was quite serious it's possible it will have healed itself wrongly by now (ie. healed out of shape, healed stretched). This could mean the only way to fix it is to have surgery on it. However I'd imagine it wasn't a major tear, because any doctor should have picked up on that at the time (you'd have thought!!) because you wouldn't have been able to walk on it.
However if it's just slightly out of shape/out of place the right sort of rehab exercise should be able to sort it out (but it might take a year or so of such exercise to get it back to how it should be).

The best thing to do is to go see a physio and get their opinion (ie. pay to see one, don't wait to see an NHS one!) It should cost about £25 just to have it checked over. They'll be able to give you a really good idea of what sort of treatment you should get, and if you need rehab exercises they should give you a program to help you out.

[paulthewitt]

ouch

I snapped ligaments in my ankle and it hurt like hell, worse than a broken arm (and I snapped through a bone so it wasn't a hairline fracture)

still gives me trouble now...a year on almost.

best of luck, sue the bike hating NHS!!!!

paul