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 firg Spanner Monkey

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 Posted: 14:53 - 11 May 2005 Post subject: 1980's Honda CX500 reliability |
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Hi all.
Most CX500's seem to be going for ~£500 ( here, here, here, and here ) and i was wondering if i picked one up just after passing my test, would reliability be an issue?
Most of the road test reports of ~10yrs ago seem to say its very reliable, and there are many selling nowadays that arent spares or repair so it cant be that bad.
What do you think? is it practical to buy one of these after my big bike test? will i have to fork out hundreds in repairs?
thanks,
cabbage
p.s. is it so cheap cause its old and fugly? (i actually think its not too bad, but that seems to be the general consensus in road tests) ____________________ Ex-'96 Bandit 600S -> '99 Bandit 600 -> K7 V-Strom 650 |
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Hi
Will be well over 20 years old now (even 10 year old road tests are talking about bikes that were old then), but generally reliable. Cam chain issues that killed them early on should be sorted on any around now.
Expect to have a few dodgy electrical problems just from having old wiring, and worse 20 years worth of bodges.
Just avoid one that has been dispatched and then sold with about half an hours worth of life left in it.
All the best
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Ask wanster on this site, think he owns a CX500. One of my teachers has one in school, a right ugly thing it is. But its Honda so you know its built well. ____________________ Honda MBX50 | Yamaha RD125LC | Suzuki RG125F Lucky Strike | Suzuki GSF600S
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Wasn't the Honda Silverwing based on the CX500?
(that's the old bike, not the modern 600cc scooter). ____________________ ...and the whirlwind is in the thorn trees, it's hard for thee to kick against the pricks...
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May I change the topic ever so slightly and enquire about a Bros or NTV650 as a first big bike to get for not too much money? They look like more of the same, just with the V normally positioned? ____________________ I must not be a troll...
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Keith please don't pick on my posts!!
Just thought that it being a Honda it should be reliable. Obviously not.  ____________________ Honda MBX50 | Yamaha RD125LC | Suzuki RG125F Lucky Strike | Suzuki GSF600S
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Ahem
The GL was very closely based (if you squint they are the same, ignore the badge and they are) on the CX500 engine, there was in fact a gl400,500,650(which was based on the 650 engine, because it was it)and 700.
CX common faults are....
startor windings, engine out job but not expensive, still quite rare...
rotting origninal hbox, for this reason the majority have motad replacements, not as fruity sounding and slightly restrictive, a big spike fixes that though
mechanical seal, not so much a fault but a total b'stard of a job, engine out, engine appart, engine in oven (yes really) but again, rare it needs doing, even so it can be ignored for years if you keep an eye on the levels carefully.
The cam chain fault was remidied straight away (at tremendous cost) all that have been modified with all last minute tweaks has 3 punch marks on the engine caseing... you have more chance of growing a gopher out of the side of your head then finding an unmodified one now! So unless you are amazeingly unlucky you will not have any chamchain problems.
Any old bike will have problems if it hasn't been looked after will be a heap, but a good one will go forever....
I am propper peeved i got rid of mine, appart from handleing (which is pants) it was perfect If you casn find a eurosport they are the updated and handleing is much more "modern"
(i even phoned the place i sold mine to try and get it back and they sold it within 2 days ) ____________________ >RidingSkills<->Tech Tips<->MyBikes< |
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| mchaggis wrote: | ... enquire about a Bros or NTV650 as a first big bike to get for not too much money? ... |
should be okay as first big bike, you'll learn a lot about handling and not pay that much for the privilege (bike + insurance). Getting long in the tooth but seem to go on forever. That said plenty of bits in breakers for spares so I guess some must go bang/crash. Not up there in terms of modern performance, brakes, etc. but perfectly adequate and gets the job done (horses for courses and all that).
Normal caveats apply with the NTV - used a lot by couriers and run into the ground, so avoid these if possible. NTV are popular with aftermarket fairings (that's where the Deauville evolved from). The Bros is usually the naked one.
Bros=chain, NTV=shaft drive, you can decide what you prefer regarding maintenance. FWIW the shaft torque is very tame and I doubt you'd notice the difference between chain and shaft.
From umgweb.com | Quote: | HONDA NTV600/650
1987 on, 583/650cc OHC v-twin,
55hp 110mph 50mpg 400lb
A mixture of upgraded VT500 motor and high tech, single sided s/arm chassis that sold well when the price was discounted for the 650 version in ’93. Some DR bikes went around the clock, so motor tough and chassis competent. A lot of reasonable bikes on offer but avoid DR bikes, anything with oil leaks, slipping clutch or rattly top ends. Also 400/600 Bro’s |
The 400 Bros is a grey import so don't know about spares. I think some people on here have them and are happy.
HTH  ____________________ ...and the whirlwind is in the thorn trees, it's hard for thee to kick against the pricks...
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Hated the NTV650 with a passion. Gutless, unreliable and a horrible ride
GT550!  ____________________ I'm immortal. Well, so far. |
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