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firg
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 11 May 2005    Post subject: 1980's Honda CX500 reliability Reply with quote

Hi all.

Most CX500's seem to be going for ~£500 ( here, here, here, and here ) and i was wondering if i picked one up just after passing my test, would reliability be an issue?

Most of the road test reports of ~10yrs ago seem to say its very reliable, and there are many selling nowadays that arent spares or repair so it cant be that bad.

What do you think? is it practical to buy one of these after my big bike test? will i have to fork out hundreds in repairs?

thanks,

cabbage

p.s. is it so cheap cause its old and fugly? (i actually think its not too bad, but that seems to be the general consensus in road tests)
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 11 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:18 - 11 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had 2, they are reliable and do the job no problem. The engine will put up with all sorts of abuse and they are cheap to run.

I'd recomend one as a first 'big' bike and/or for anybody on a budget.
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 11 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robin wrote:
and/or for anybody on a budget.


cabbage has £700 for a bike and any replacements/petrol etc over the next 3/4 months...

wibble.
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 11 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Will be well over 20 years old now (even 10 year old road tests are talking about bikes that were old then), but generally reliable. Cam chain issues that killed them early on should be sorted on any around now.

Expect to have a few dodgy electrical problems just from having old wiring, and worse 20 years worth of bodges.

Just avoid one that has been dispatched and then sold with about half an hours worth of life left in it.

All the best

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PostPosted: 15:30 - 11 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask wanster on this site, think he owns a CX500. One of my teachers has one in school, a right ugly thing it is. But its Honda so you know its built well.
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 11 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just avoid one that has been dispatched

You mean there are CXs that haven't been on the circuit?
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 11 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasn't the Honda Silverwing based on the CX500?
(that's the old bike, not the modern 600cc scooter).
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 11 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

I had a CX back in the late 80's. Not bad reliability wise. Just remember that they are shaft drive though. Personally, If I was going to view one, I'd check it over well before you part with any cash. Also, Im not sure how you are with bikes, (not being derogatory here) but if you aren't too good with mechanics etc I'd take someone with you to have a look.

All the best

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PostPosted: 16:40 - 11 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
Wasn't the Honda Silverwing based on the CX500?
(that's the old bike, not the modern 600cc scooter).


It was based on the later CX650, which indeed was a 500 taken out to 644cc
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 11 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Josh|RD125LC wrote:
One of my teachers has one in school, a right ugly thing it is.


They were known as the Plastic Maggot.

Josh|RD125LC wrote:
But its Honda so you know its built well.


Funniest thing anyone has said today. When released they were hideously unreliable as Honda had numerous attempts redesigning the cam chain tensioner to get it to last more than a few weeks (they were regularly failing before the 500 mile service was due). Dealers were renting garages anywhere they could to store all the bikes that were in waiting for warrenty repairs. Early 80s Honda build quality was nothing special, marginally better than Yamaha but if you wanted a mechanically long lived Japanses bike a Suzuki would have been a better choice. For example Honda wiring was nothing special, far worse than you would get with a modern Ducati, although at least then Honda could make a charging system (something they seem to have forgotten how to do).

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PostPosted: 22:39 - 11 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's the only bike ever built with a cam chain and push rods.
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 11 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

May I change the topic ever so slightly and enquire about a Bros or NTV650 as a first big bike to get for not too much money? They look like more of the same, just with the V normally positioned?
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 11 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
I think it's the only bike ever built with a cam chain and push rods.


Most pushrod engines have cam chains, but Honda seem to be the only ones to manage to design one with a tensioner problem.

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PostPosted: 22:47 - 11 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keith please don't pick on my posts!! Crying or Very sad

Just thought that it being a Honda it should be reliable. Obviously not. Smile
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 11 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahem Razz

The GL was very closely based (if you squint they are the same, ignore the badge and they are) on the CX500 engine, there was in fact a gl400,500,650(which was based on the 650 engine, because it was it)and 700.

CX common faults are....

startor windings, engine out job but not expensive, still quite rare...

rotting origninal hbox, for this reason the majority have motad replacements, not as fruity sounding and slightly restrictive, a big spike fixes that though Very Happy

mechanical seal, not so much a fault but a total b'stard of a job, engine out, engine appart, engine in oven (yes really) but again, rare it needs doing, even so it can be ignored for years if you keep an eye on the levels carefully.


The cam chain fault was remidied straight away (at tremendous cost) all that have been modified with all last minute tweaks has 3 punch marks on the engine caseing... you have more chance of growing a gopher out of the side of your head then finding an unmodified one now! So unless you are amazeingly unlucky you will not have any chamchain problems.


Any old bike will have problems if it hasn't been looked after will be a heap, but a good one will go forever....



I am propper peeved i got rid of mine, appart from handleing (which is pants) it was perfect Sad If you casn find a eurosport they are the updated and handleing is much more "modern"

(i even phoned the place i sold mine to try and get it back and they sold it within 2 days Crying or Very sad )
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 12 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchaggis wrote:
... enquire about a Bros or NTV650 as a first big bike to get for not too much money? ...

Thumbs Up should be okay as first big bike, you'll learn a lot about handling Wink and not pay that much for the privilege (bike + insurance). Getting long in the tooth but seem to go on forever. That said plenty of bits in breakers for spares so I guess some must go bang/crash. Not up there in terms of modern performance, brakes, etc. but perfectly adequate and gets the job done (horses for courses and all that).

Normal caveats apply with the NTV - used a lot by couriers and run into the ground, so avoid these if possible. NTV are popular with aftermarket fairings (that's where the Deauville evolved from). The Bros is usually the naked one.

Bros=chain, NTV=shaft drive, you can decide what you prefer regarding maintenance. FWIW the shaft torque is very tame and I doubt you'd notice the difference between chain and shaft.

From umgweb.com
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HONDA NTV600/650
1987 on, 583/650cc OHC v-twin,
55hp 110mph 50mpg 400lb
A mixture of upgraded VT500 motor and high tech, single sided s/arm chassis that sold well when the price was discounted for the 650 version in ’93. Some DR bikes went around the clock, so motor tough and chassis competent. A lot of reasonable bikes on offer but avoid DR bikes, anything with oil leaks, slipping clutch or rattly top ends. Also 400/600 Bro’s


The 400 Bros is a grey import so don't know about spares. I think some people on here have them and are happy.

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PostPosted: 10:54 - 12 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hated the NTV650 with a passion. Gutless, unreliable and a horrible ride Sick

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PostPosted: 10:55 - 12 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:

The 400 Bros is a grey import so don't know about spares. I think some people on here have them and are happy.


There was no 600 Bros imported. We only got the shaft drive 600 and 650 NTV (and we seem to be the only country that got the 600 as up to 600cc was an almost universal UK band for insurance at the time.

All the best

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PostPosted: 11:17 - 12 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tarmacsurfer wrote:
GT550! Thumbs Up

Another one that goes on forever. Same caveats as with the NTV. Handling is an aquired taste, but as said, teaches you how to do it Wink

I have a soft spot for these old lumps. IMO the GT750 would be a better buy if you can find one.
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 12 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found the 750 to be a little too heavy to be thrown around as well as the 550, and all in all for not much more power on tap.

Did around 85k on a GT550, then moved onto an NTV650 that self destructed inside 10k so went with an XJ900 (pre divvie model). That went for around 75k with almost no problems and very infrequent servicing. Rode a GT750 outside of work for a while, but the thing never struck me a particularly useful bike.
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 12 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks wise their are loooooads you can do with cx's, reeeeeally nice looking bikes if you just take the plastic on the front off:

https://www.cxboard.netfirms.com/cxChopper/

https://www.cxboard.netfirms.com/cxChopper/December2004/stephanie.jpg
https://www.cxboard.netfirms.com/cxChopper/April2004/right1.jpg


https://www.angelfire.com/oz/cx500/

https://www.angelfire.com/oz/cx500/images/done3.JPG

https://www.angelfire.com/oz/cx500/images/jul29_3.JPG


Loads of people like to turn them into rat bikes like this:

https://img232.echo.cx/img232/5559/cx500rat3ii.jpg

https://img142.echo.cx/img142/6933/cx500front0sc.jpg

https://img63.echo.cx/img63/1216/cx500side5lj.jpg

took me literally 30/45 minutes (I clocked it) to put my engine in after painting it and that was the first time i've ever worked on a bike engine.
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