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PostPosted: 21:54 - 01 Jun 2005    Post subject: Re: Cadwell weekend report Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
Opt for an early night


Bendy wrote:
when the fast boys are doing you up the inside and outside


Bendy wrote:
riders who're up me arse.


Bendy wrote:
I have him and set off in pursuit of what's in front.


Bendy wrote:
Dusty points out that what I need to do is hang back more and take a run at people, rather than doing what I'm doing - sitting right up their arse


Bendy wrote:
Jay points out that I should stop trying to be nice to people and just stuff it up 'em.


Anyone else spotting the innuendos? Wink
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 01 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fantastic weekend that for me started by going to a christening of a university mate's daughter. Was great to meet up with people I hadn't seen for years and as the christening was in Louth it meant we could easily pop over to see the racing at Cadwell on the Monday.

The racing bit:
We found camp BCF amongst the paddock area of Cadwell, quite easily visible with the bright yellow van and Swaffs' BCFRacing Flag. As we got there people were milling around various bikes with tools in hand, Marjay was playing with his new Trump and Bendy had the fairings off her CBR. We said a few hellos just before it started to spit with rain.
We took the opportunity to follow a bunch of BCFers down to the hairpin as it started to chuck it down with rain which then turned to hail. Stood there chatting while holding the video camera and managed to catch a few crashes whilst not looking properly as people slid round the hairpin. I was hoping it wouldn't rain for our trackday. Praying
Watching G race was cool and we could give a quick GGgggggg! as he rode past amongst the other racers, he seemed to be doing quite well and was in the points. Thumbs Up
Throughout the next hour or so things dried up a bit as the sun came out from behind the clouds and the racing speeds increased again, it was great to see just how quick the bikes got to between Mansfield and the Chicane and I felt kind of inspired for our trackday the next day. Looking forward to get onto Cadwell again.

Tuesday=trackday.
I managed to get an early night on the monday night, which meant I actually didnt feel too bad when the alarm went off at 5am. I got myself out of bed had a leisurely cup of tea got myself ready and was on the road to Cadwell before 6am. The roads were wet but the sun was out and dazzling me as the light shone of the wet road, I hoped the sun came out fully before the first session started.
I arrived at a quiet Cadwell paddock, I guess it was still early as it wasn't quite 7am. People had just started to wake and a few were wandering around, probably waiting for the canteen to open. The guys in the fast and inters groups were called for briefing at 7:30 but mike was still asleep in the volvo. "Mike, your briefing has started" followed by "F*ck off". Had my first laugh of the day. Laughing
Novice briefing started at 8am and went on a little long.

By the first session I was well awake and looking forward to getting onto track. The first session there is no order to it as such and people just queue up to get onto track in the same way you would at any normal trackday. This meant that there was plenty of overtaking going on once the yellow flags ahd dropped after a couple of laps. I had a couple of fun moments racing a little chap on a white 2 stroke (turned out 2 be a 12 yr old on a 125 Laughing ), he outbraked me just about everywhere and I got him on the power out of corners and we passed each other 3 or 4 times. I felt I had done okay as the first session is never that great anyway, I had overtaken quite a few but also got overtaken a few times myself. When the novice grouping came out I was in group C row 1 (around the middle of the novice group) with luke and shaun a row ahead in B2. They were now my targets Twisted Evil . There was also the young lad on an Aprilia RS125 next to me (think his name was Jordan), he said how he wanted to move onto a GP125 when he was 15.
I entered track third from our mini group, meaning I had 2/3 bikes to get past before I was onto the back of Shauns bike I managed to get past after a few laps and started to chase Luke who was playing a with a blue R6. I finished just behind Luke and this time had only seen Jordan at the beginning of the session.

The third session was timed in order to sort the groups out again.
Korn gave my suspension a tweak and added a couple of clicks extra of rebound as I had felt that the front felt just slightly "springy" but nothing too major to worry about. This session was almost a replay of the last, I saw the same bikes and riders as last time but finished with one bike between Luke and myself. I was feeling pretty happy with myself and thought that I had a fair chance of moving forward in the starting order. Smile The front suspension felt spot on now (cheers Korn)
From what I understand the inters session had been cut short with red flags meaning they didn't get a real chance to get timed at full speed but when the next sheets telling us the order to line up in I couldn't find my name Confused but was happy to see that I had been moved up into inters C2 with Luke being slightly faster and moved into inters B2. Mike was positioned just behind in D1.

The session after lunch meant I was now riding in the inters group which actually made me feel slightly nervous and it started spitting with rainfor our first lap onto track. Thankfully it only rained for 4/5 minutes and certainly not very hard. By the time the rain had stopped I had just about got used to this group seeming a little bit faster but still quite bunched together, I passed a couple of people and a couple got past, including Mike. I also noticed that young Jordan had been moved up into inters, Thumbs Up to him.

The next session seemed to be delayed quite a lot as someone in the fast group had had a spill and left plenty of oil at Mansfield.I think it was this following session that Luke decided to drop back a little bit at the beginning and I was able to follow him round a for a few laps and managed to get past this time but before long he got back past me and then mike came along again. This time Mike did me no favours going into the chicane and came up my inside as I was about to tip in. The git Evil or Very Mad took my space and I decided to go straight over the grass instead of taking the road route, little did I know that this would be my first experience of the grass for today. I told Mike what had happened afterwards and he seemed apologetic for what had happened, I didn't mind that much at all and I should've expected it having seen him cut up the inside of so many people before.

The next session seemd to come round quite quick and within a couple of laps Mike was already playing with me. He passed me, then I passed him on park straight. He outbraked me going into park corner and I opened the throttle to chase him but all I got was a BANG!. My bike had backfired and the engine just cut out. Thankfully it was at a point where I was picking the bike up and I just ran off the track and onto the grass. I tried the started but nothing happened, tried again and the bike fired into life. The marshalls waved me back on and I rejoined the track but decided to come off at the pit exit to see what had happened. I got off the track and tried to put my sidestand down, I couldn't. One of the bolts that hold the sidestand down had come undone and was pression against the sidestand switch. I guess that this is why my bike had cut out coming out of the corner, Ste came over with an Allen key and tightened it up so I could put my stand down. Everything else seemed normal on the bike.

The final session was probably my favourite trackday session ever. Luke had dropped back into Mikes group as the rest of that mini group must've gone home. I let all the other bikes in front of me go out onto track so that us three went out onto track together. After the first warm up lap the fun began I managed to get past two other riders before Luke came past between Mansfield and the chicane, again I had been done here, damn it. This time I was mroe determined to get past Luke and stayed right behind him and managed to get past him between the mountain and halls bends. At the end of halls bends we approached the hairpin, a corner I love but for some reason I went really wide. Wide enough for Luke to tuck into, but I didn't realise I had left enough room for Luke to tuck under me and Mike to tuck under him too. Shocked .
This was probably the most impressive move I had first hand experience of on a trackday and I entered the hairpin slower than I had done for a while at the shear shock of witnessing it. Laughing
As we got halfway down the start/finish straight I was semi tempted to ride between luke and mike as I was carrying a tiny bit more speed (me on a 750 them on 400s) but decided against it as I would have had no room for error coming into Coppice. I stayed directly behind the pair of them and finally overtook towards the end of Park straight. I was determined and also went past the next bike in front as we entered the braking area. Unfortunately I felt I was carrying to much speed, missed a gear change and with the rear end squirming a bit decided not to turn and went straight on, onto the grass. A tiny voice in my head told me to avoid the front brake and I used the back, although all that did was make the rear wheel stop and slide on the grass. I stopped about 3 or 4 foot from the tyre wall and knocked my bike into first gear to rejoin the track had a mini wheelspin as I opened the throttle on track, probably removing some grass/dirt from the rear wheel but had pretty much no chance of catching anyone up again before the session was over. When we all got back to the camp area Mike and Luke were laughing and told me I could have easily made it round the corner anyway. I really must learn to use my brakes better Neutral .

Overall a fantastic few days, with the last session being the highlight for me. I learned quite a bit riding in inters that gives me a bit more confidence and I hope I managed my target of 2minutes 5 seconds for my fastest lap. (I have managed around 2:08 before, taken from onboard footage).

Really hope that next time I go to Cadwell there will be some more ever so slightly faster BCFers to chase. Razz Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 01 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

There were 3 RS125s out there. One in novices who was not that quick, and 2 in intermediates. One was just about holding his own, and other was pretty damn quick. One crashed late on in the day (on the left before the mountain).

Watching earlier on in the day I saw one of the 125s regularly taking 1~2 people into the hairpin. Bit cheeky really when everyone was told to leave them alone.

Dusty - presume he went out slightly early with one instructor.

All the best

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PostPosted: 23:50 - 01 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

weekend. 5 and a bit hours later we arrived at Cadwell, Korn, Danny and Millsy had already arrived and found a good place to go in the paddock so we started to get the vans unpacked and the gazebo's up. After getting vaguelly ready for Saturday the BBQ is lit and you can't weren't able to see one end from the other for the smoke. Everyone heads off to bed without any drunken happenings.

https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/cadwell/posting/1.jpg https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/cadwell/posting/2.jpg


We get up on Saturday to find the gazebos looking a bit worse than they were the night before as the winds had all picked up. The gazebo's are put back together, gaffa taped together and attached to vans/generators/compressors and other suitably heavy things. G's bike is still having problems but in the afternoon the bike is fixed and G's lap times pick up. The vans are moved around so they can act as wind breaks so that hopefully the gazebo's wouldn't fall down again.

https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/cadwell/posting/3.jpg
https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/cadwell/posting/4.jpg https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/cadwell/posting/5.jpg

Saturday evening and with more people and more beer things such as taking down or just jumping on tents seemed a good idea, as did laps of Cadwell on foot or pushbike.

https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/cadwell/posting/6.jpg
https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/cadwell/posting/7.jpg

Everything seemed in order on Sunday morning, the bike is still working right, G's first race only has a couple of laps before it is red flagged but it continues after lunch as they need a bit of time to clear up one of the tyre walls I think it was. Second race goes without problems and G finishing in 17th.

https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/cadwell/posting/8.jpg

Sunday night sees more alcohol and more messing around with uni/bicycles, the area which when we arrived on Friday seemed very big and more than enough room was filling up by now as well.

For the first race on Monday the wheels are changed for the wets after a slight downpour of biblical proportions, lots of people crashed out in the race but G stayed on and finished 15th. The second race G managed to finish in 12th so more points there and the bike had continued working!

https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/cadwell/posting/9.jpg https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/cadwell/posting/10.jpg https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/cadwell/posting/11.jpg

As the size of the BCF village/shanty town is bigger that night and the paddock is emptying out, more playing around with pushbikes, unicycles and other such things happen taking advantage of there being more space around us. With there being lots of spare tyres around, some tyres were strapped together so as someone could lay in them and be rolled down hills. Others have photos of this I believe. After that, rather than rolling tyres down hills, towing them with a car sounded a better idea so with tyres attached to a towbar we made use of the large empty fields by driving around towing tyres with people trying to stay on them, lieing on the roof and other daftness. With not as many people in the paddock, we could also play with fire poi and fire juggling clubs.

https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/cadwell/posting/12.jpg https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/cadwell/posting/13.jpg

Tuesday morning sees more BCF people arriving for the ESS Pace Day. After a bit of a late start due to the doctor not arriving, the day goes well other than the aspect of having to pack everything up at the end of the day.

https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/cadwell/posting/14.jpg https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/cadwell/posting/15.jpg https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/cadwell/posting/16.jpg https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/cadwell/posting/17.jpg https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/cadwell/posting/18.jpg https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/cadwell/posting/19.jpg https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/cadwell/posting/20.jpg

A very good weekend, when's the next one? Mr. Green

More pictures from the Bemsee practice day and race days here and more pictures from the ESS Pace Day here. Higher res copies of any of those pictures if anyone wants them.
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PostPosted: 00:51 - 02 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

A random selection of pics from the weekend.

https://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/TempPicture/Cadders/

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 00:54 - 02 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some good photo's there keith, as always. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:01 - 02 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Hi

A random selection of pics from the weekend.


This picture interests me for two reasons; firstly the bike looks like it's on its sidestand, and secondly, isn't the marshall a bit premature with the green flag? Confused
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 02 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Dusty - presume he went out slightly early with one instructor.

Ahh - I get ya, they probably went out before I got down there. Silence Laughing

Weren't ESS supposed to have the lap times up by yesterday? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 02 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver wrote:
This picture[/url] interests me for two reasons; firstly the bike looks like it's on its sidestand, and secondly, isn't the marshall a bit premature with the green flag? Confused


And it looks like the rider is about to sprint to the bike and grab it before it falls over.

Think the Marshall was just a bit slow taking the green flag down after an incident on the mountain.

All the best

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PostPosted: 12:14 - 02 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lap times are up;

Ian - 1:47
Jon - 1:48
Korn - 1:51
Dusty 1:57
M1ke 2:02
Luke : 2.04
Stew 2:05
Jay12329 2:10
Shaun 2:11
Bendy 2:13
Danny 2:14
Marjay 2:15

The rest of you i cant find your numbers.
Will Update later
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 02 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korn - 1:51
Ian - 1:47
Jon - 1:48

Woohoo......Slightly quick that guys Thumbs Up!! Dance! Clapping
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 02 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bah, I've outlined my excuse and I'm sticking to it Razz

Swaffs' mate Mark also did a very impressive 1:52 before his off, and the quickest two guys in the group were the R6 cup lads who were posting 1:41 and 1:42 before they left.
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 02 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I neeeed to learn how to do the mountain/woodland end properly, I reckon I could make up about 10 secs through there if I stopped dithering about like some great nancy. Smile
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 02 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

What sort of time are the BSB boys running?
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 02 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nighteyes wrote:
Ian - 1:47
Jon - 1:48



Wow, the great bald one and the fat 400 hater got times similar to G's

That being said, everyone's times look quick! Well done guys Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 02 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luke : 2.04 Wink
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 02 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fastest lap of the weekend was John Paul Scott 1:35.755 !!! on a 600
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 02 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My best lap time was 2:14, I got 2:12 last time I was there, but then again there was a reason I crashed.
I really need to sort out a trackbike so I can push it 100%. Thinking
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 02 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Paul Scott was feckin flying.

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Wow, the great bald one and the fat 400 hater got times similar to G's

I really should have/could have been faster, but only got into it in the last race.

I did have brand new tyres though; but wasn't really abusing them.
So it's me being crap rather than the bike limiting Smile.

While I know Korn at least had pretty damn fucked tyres and was riding them much closer to the limit.

Also need to go 'faster in the fast corners'; definitely could take coppice faster, and probably the charlies.
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 02 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like you guys had a really good weekend! Very Happy

I'd love to come to the next one! When is it planned? Does Bemsee hit Brands Hatch soon? If so, I'll see if I can get there and end up in the pit lane! Wink
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Six or seven weeks I believe.

I'm sure you'll have fun in the pit lane; bikes go out onto track from a seperate 'assembly area' behind the pit lane at Brands Smile.
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Brands is the 16/17th July according to Bendy. Shame, I'd love to be there and help out and stay over, but I'm in Tenerife Sad

Shame, it's a really local track to me!

Not attending Pembury or Croix I take it?

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Don't worry, they go back to Brands for another crack at the Indy circuit before the end of the season.
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Hi
Ay 2:04 wanted to get close to the 2:00 mins Sad, N1 Mike 2:02, why couldnt you have done that infront of me Very Happy.

Ah well 2:04 was my target, thats what the guy who raced my bike got last year so Thumbs Up for that, but i wanted to be faster Very Happy

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Rear tyer was a bit Neutral, had a few slides from it, only 3rd TD on that bike.

However my bike was faster than mikes ZXR in a straight line, so N1 agin for that mate, blinding time, wanna join me in rookie 400's next year Wink.

Edit: Still 12 seconds faster than the slowest rookie 400 (spose its not much to gloat about)

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PostPosted: 15:06 - 02 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe, exactly as I predicted. Cool

Told ya Luke. Razz

I know for sure that my weakness is braking from the fast sections into the slow corners, really must work on that for next time.
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