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R4nger
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Gravel - Traffic Calming Reply with quote

All the good roads around here have had loose gravel put on the roads. They RECOMMEND 20mph on all gravel, even around sharp bends. Now, the problem is ofcourse traction. It's not just the gravel in the middle of the road, it gets pushed around where the wheels on a car don't; around the edges and middle of the road. It feels very dangerous going at the speed limit (40mph usually) and going in and out of side roads. They are also saving money with no road markings at all. Surely the council have to sweep it every week atleast?
Also, my is my legal position if I come off because of this gravel?
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

They do that a lot at this time of year because the tar is hot and soft and there is not a lot of salt and muck on the road.

The tarring process relys on wheels running over the newly layed surface to press the gravel into the bitumen. They do eventually sweep it down once the initial surface has been compacted enough.

I suspect that you wouldn't have a leg to stand on if you came off on it (no pun intended) providing they put up appropriate signage warning you of the hazard.
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
They do that a lot at this time of year because the tar is hot and soft and there is not a lot of salt and muck on the road.

The tarring process relys on wheels running over the newly layed surface to press the gravel into the bitumen. They do eventually sweep it down once the initial surface has been compacted enough.

I suspect that you wouldn't have a leg to stand on if you came off on it (no pun intended) providing they put up appropriate signage warning you of the hazard.



I would like to see that tested in a court under the idea of road not fit for purpose even if signed posted.

I think it is nothing short of criminal to deliberately scatter dangerous debris on a road surface and lave it to cars and Lorries to pack it in.

Other than just the damage done with stone chips to cars it is lethal to bikers.


It shocking that saving a few quid on a road roller is more important than the safety of the road users.
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Barry
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure about the legality of this, but I agree with biggerjohn. It would be far more sensible to let a roller do the job of pressing the gravel into the new road, presuming this is what youre on about.

It incredibly dangerous to leave loose gravel on the road and when there is wet tar also involved - your tyres also just pick up that wet crap and it make riding unstable untill you can 'spin' them off.

Its just another sign that roads are built for cars and not motor vehicles as a whole. - scandalous!
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

biggerjohn wrote:


Other than just the damage done with stone chips to cars it is lethal to bikers.





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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, they have always built roads like that as far back as I can remember. It is not a new thing, I will admit that it is crap to ride on a freshly chipped road but that type of surface is a godsend when it comes to winter and there is ice on the roads.

I don't have a problem riding on the stuff, you just have to take care. I find the biggest problem is stones being thrown up by other vehicles so keeping a big gap is a must.
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