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Double White Lines: Overtake or not?
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DynaMight
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Double White Lines: Overtake or not? Reply with quote

Never even pay attention to them myself, If it's safe I'll overtake.

What about you?
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Add the option - if clear view/certain safety!

Il do it if im certain nothing is coming the other way, and I know the road!
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I generally dont do it... as the roads round here are twisty n windy as it is... if them lines are there it generally means u have to be psycotic to even consider overtaking on that stretch of road in the 1st place Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

ash t wrote:
Add the option - if clear view/certain safety!

Il do it if im certain nothing is coming the other way, and I know the road!


same here, usaully you can see the hazard, junction, hill crest etc etc, but if there is a straight part that i know that my bike can accelerate, pass, and get back in my lane without cuting a car up then i will take the overtake, i see it as roads a mainly designed for cars so the double white lines are there as cars can't change speeds/manouvour as quick as bikes
though it does depend on the mood i am in, to rag or not to rag! Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never! they are there for a reason and if you do it surely just gives out the signal that all bikers are hooligans and that laws mean nothing.

By law an emergancy vehicle on-route to a call cannot even cross a double white line so what gives you the right?
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

99% of the time when i see double white lines on the road i can't see well enough to overtake anyway and wouldn't risk it. I'll cross the line(s) coming out of the corner when i can see nothing is coming though.. but generally i stay on my side of the road.
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not normally.
They are normally there for a reason even if you can't see what it is at the time.

Having said that though i did ita few times today when out on a thrash. But i had been sat behind the car for 5 miles, i saw it was clear and started the overtake before the double whites had ended.
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Re: Double White Lines: Overtake or not? Reply with quote

DynaMight wrote:
Never even pay attention to them myself, If it's safe I'll overtake.


From my experience, if there are solid lines in the road, then it means that it's not often possible to make a safe judgement to pass.

Personally, I wouldn't overtake, but admittedly mainly because I don't want to be seen as a w@nker, which is how I see people who do overtake on them...
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, only time I can recall doing so is when I am halfway through an overtake on normal lines and end up pulling back in by which point they are double solids, is this illegal?
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was taught on my cbt it is perfectly legal to overtake on solid white lines. Only thing you cannot do is cross them, so if the lane is wide enough you can overtake without crossing them.

I tend to ignore them though, if i see it's safe to overtake i do so.
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never - they're there for a reason Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 00:02 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Add that to my illegal but safe things that I do.

Will put it along side chevron overtakes, and undertakes on motorways if a car will not move in for 1 mile! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If i need to get passed and i can see the road is clear, but i would try not to do it because i suppose they are there for a reason.

Also is there a big penalty for getting caught overtaking on them or is it just a slap on the wrists and told to be on your way??

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PostPosted: 00:06 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never overtake on a double solid white lines, because A it's illegal and B their there for a reason (usually reduced visibility ahead). However have been known to filter past stationary traffic, on or just over the white line, but not going too quickly.
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PostPosted: 00:07 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never cross them. They wouldn't be there unless there was a good reason, and anyone coming the other way should be able to be reasonably certain that nothing is going to be on their side of the road when double white lines are there.

I have to admit, if I see anyone (bike or car) ignoring double white lines, my immediate thought is "tosser"...
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

**Biker-Kev** wrote:
is there a big penalty for getting caught overtaking on them or is it just a slap on the wrists and told to be on your way??


Presumably it could be interpreted as dangerous driving, or driving without due care - both of which are bad news...
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PostPosted: 00:12 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sammyboy wrote:
undertakes on motorways if a car will not move in for 1 mile! Rolling Eyes


tell me about it... was on a dual-carrageway today on the inside lane after taking some orange car, he was sitting around 65mph. I notice a Yellow MG coming up behind us in the outside lane probably doing 80-90mph and what does the guy in the orange car do? pulls into the outside lane and sits at the same speed for absolutely no reason, after about a minute he pulls back in Confused
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
is there a big penalty for getting caught overtaking on them or is it just a slap on the wrists and told to be on your way??


There is a specific offense, which is:

TS20.. Failing to comply with double white lines.......... 3 points
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PostPosted: 01:25 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bigger the white the larger the fright and all that. There's a lot of white on solid lines! Wink Rolling Eyes

I haven't/won't overtake where they are there. It usually means there's a reason for it and I can take enough risks on the bike without adding to them!

Besides, its part of the game making progress in the other bits inbetween them isn't it??? Wink
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PostPosted: 01:26 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only crossed them when already commited to an overtaking manouver before the lines started. As I'm on a 125 I've only overtook another vehicle on double white lines when they've moved over to the left to create a gap and I've deemed it safe to pass.
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PostPosted: 01:47 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rarely come across double white lines where I think it's actually safe to overtake, but on those few occasions where I do I have no qualms about crossing them.

It's no different to speed limits in my opinion - If it's safe, you can get away with it, and you want to, then why not?
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PostPosted: 03:08 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there is an unbroken line on your side of the road and a dotted line on their side of the road its unsafe to overtake.

Double line just means its unsafe for either side to overtake.

Both situations are far more important than speed limits.

If you overtake when its not safe to do so you are more likely to die than if you just go 10mph above the speed limit all the time.

If you play russian roulette once you will proably get away with it but it doesnt mean its worth doing.
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PostPosted: 07:01 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, if I can see that I can make the manoeuvre. Which is rare.
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nup sorry not ever. As many have said they're there for a reason. It obviously indicates your vision is impaired and it is simply not safe to do so.
Sure you may think you can make a safe enough judgement call to take on the risks but selfishly you are not only risking your own ass but anyone who happens to be coming the other way. That in itself makes it not worth the chance.
In my mind Id rather take my time and spend a few extra minutes to be safe then waste the rest of it in a wheelchair or worse.
Im sure everyone who has had an accident under these circumstances would tell you they thought it was safe to cross the lines as well.
How many of you have fallen off pushing that little bit harder on a corner or soemthing similar to see your baby go skidding down the road.
You only do it because you thought you were safe to.
Pity is perception and reality in some of these cases aren't always the same thing.
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apart from pulling wheelies this is the easiest way to get 3 points if a cop sees you doing it.
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