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PostPosted: 20:27 - 29 Jun 2005    Post subject: 500 Twins - Engine braking. Reply with quote

As I don't want to hijack the CB500 thread, I'll post the question seperately Smile

Since I've not ridden a 500 twin (apart from a quick go on a GS500 about 12 years ago, and I wasn't paying much attention) I was wondering on how they feel from an engine braking point of view, as in how does it compare to, say, a 500 single and a 600 inline 4? I'm guessing it'll be somewhere between the two, but am interested in hearing of people's experience.
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 29 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

from my experience of riding a gs500e if you turn the throttle slightly the bike jumps into life.. not to be confused with torque

as soon as you let off the throttle the bike tries to stop dead.

i.e it stops and starts with a jolt.

nothing like the engine braking of an inline four.



just my experience of course and each to their own but i would not like to ride one ever again
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 29 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rode an er5 for 8 months, now on a 600 hornet (stop gap bike)

Er5's engine braking is stronger, and you will notice it. Will slow you down quicker and for in town riding, it's better like that. However, for quicker riding, inline 4 is much smoother and not as sudden, like a light bulb.

Still...I'd take a twin parallel over a inline 4 for a commuter.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 29 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having owned 500's from 2001 till just this year having swapped to an Inline4, I can say the engine braking on the 500cc twins is alot more apparent.

I could slow down quite quickly on a 500, just by shutting the throttle and going down the gearbox, though on an inline 4 its less noticable and I seem to be using the brakes alot more than I am used to.

That said an inline 4 has more torque, and a smoother powerband than the said 500's.
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 29 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing I don't like and it is a slight thread hijack is if you go up to high revs in first and just let off the throttle, I nearly get chucked forward all the time. Very Happy It's great, also like the sound it makes.
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 29 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
One thing I don't like


Quote:
It's great, also like the sound it makes


Ummmm contradiction there which is it to be?
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 29 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It started and then it made me smile as I thought about it some more. Progressive emotional typing, you may experience it someday. Smile
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 29 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
It's great, also like the sound it makes.


The sound of the SV is excellent, like a double bass pedal blasting from Igor Cavalera Cool
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 30 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

tony532 wrote:
from my experience of riding a gs500e if you turn the throttle slightly the bike jumps into life.. not to be confused with torque

as soon as you let off the throttle the bike tries to stop dead.

i.e it stops and starts with a jolt.


yeah exactly. I have a GS500 and its really harsh, theres nothing smooth about the engine at all. The brakes on mine are so shit that I use engine braking to stop as a rule, the brakes just don't seem to have any power...

But yeah, the throttle is like an on/off switch..... it can cause problems. On smallish roundabouts or tight bends if someone pulls out in front of me I instinctively shut off the throttle (in order to then stand the bike up and brake) and the sudden jolt really upsets the the bike, the front wheel starts slapping around all over the place. Its impossible to decelerate smoothly.
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PostPosted: 08:31 - 30 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

CB500 has dam good engine braking, oes quite compare to a 1000 v-twin, but dam good either way.

If you are hrd on the brakes on the CB and then go down a few gears and dump the clutch lever, you will go sideways with the rear wheel, but it soon slots in again. It's quite fun, Kyonari style!

The take up on the throttle is a bit sudden, as is the introduction of engine braking when the throttle is closed, but it's soon got used to. You can ride the clutch to cut this down or progressively close the throttle to control it. As said in another reply above, you can use engine braking to slow down without touching the brakes in alot of situations. I was using the engine to slow from 120mph to around 90mph when first trying to negotiate gerrards on the cb5 and managing to do it inside 75 yards or so.

They are really simple bikes to ride and quite fun at times.

All in all, I find engine braking to be one of the best things with riding/racing. The more the better. Thus why my road bikes are always big 1000cc V-Twins!
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