Sidecars.. help/info needed please

[satans_BIG_helper]

Right basically... im considering a small sidecar cos i wanna be able to take my dog with me away to places, he is only a little staffie so not much room needed but an enclosed sidecar with opening window on the side is the kinda thing im thinking of... i understand it will destroy any handling of the bike but if it means i can take my dog with me away for weekends i wont care at all..., does anyone know of any reasonably priced small "universal" sidecars or equivalents ?

thankyou

[mistergixer]

Yes, they are called 'cars'. You may have seen them on the road.

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[satans_BIG_helper]

nice one clever person.....

I have 2 bikes to use... so one will be the weekends away riding in the countryside one... and the other my hooliganism bike and most the time im happy to just ride around at a nice gentle pace n enjoy the view...

PS i cba to do my car test... far prefer the bike

[mr.z]

Sidecars are horrificly expensive, £3000 is cheap for haveing one fitted (a basic one) and its perminent, you can't take them off they need to be welded to frame parts e.t.c. Needs doing properly or its potentially very dangerous... fittings are specific to the bike, just bolting them on is not enough either.

Not too sure if you'd need to pay £500 to have the bike tested as its such a serveer modification to the bike???

Better is to buy a bike with one attached, seen cx's with them on go for under £1000.

OR

A trailer, wont cost much more than £200 or so to get one, modify it to accomidate dog, have a linkage to the bike made.. have extra carrying capacity too, This can be removed easyly, dosen't affect handleing too badly either, again its gonna need welding on really, how would depend on the bike..

I'd love a sidecar but only if i had another bike without one...

p.s. understand about the car thing, my mums a driveing instructor but if i have a car licence it will get to the "oh well theres no point you haveing a bike now" to that.. if me and the girlfriend have a small one a sidecar will be doable
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[veeeffarr]

Found some links for you

https://homepage.ntlworld.com/sjwwood/links.html

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[Vespa]

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[mr.z]

This is the trailer that a mate has, here it is in sweden!

Bonus is you can take it off in 1minute, could even have another non dog trailer Ive seen them made for dogs before, with perspex glass bits on the side for it to see out of...
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[satans_BIG_helper]

I know my dog will love it aswell... i have stuffed him down my jacket for quick trips in the past n he loved it... hes got bigger lately and he isnt the most comfortable thing to have down ur jacket

[stinkwheel]

[yambabe]

What Stinkwheel said. In fact, I was just about to post some very similar comments when he beat me to it!
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[binge]

Not sure on legal terms. But why dont you get a top box for your bike (One big enough to fit your dog in)...

And cut a hole in the top of it, just big enough for your do to beable to stick his / her head through.

[mistergixer]

Sorry for my rather sarcastic post.
I can't get my head round sidecars:
They lack the weather protection of a car, but loose the manouverability of a bike.
Seems to me to be a loss on all fronts.
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[Ste]

Get one of these.

https://www.bagster.com/photosshowroom/1083774557ANIMAUX%20grdephoto%20showr.jpg
https://www.bagster.com/en/moto/showroomview.php?id=15

[mr.z]

Where i'd been led to understand the pricey nature of the sidecar was from a guy who builds them and rides several outfits... this would be option 2, bolting one on you'd be allot braver than me!

Yes a slight hint of poo that post, apologies there, but they do have a bit of a reputation (my dad had one too), haveing anything but a full setup is gonna be scarey stuff, even done proppery they are still evil to ride, the quick dirty way imo is as dangerous as viniger soaked sandpaper bog roll.

Love the doggy bag depending on how big your dog is haveing him on the tank makes allot of sense..

Like binge said you could make a hefty top box, again depends on size/weight, provided its "safe/secure load" than i'm sure there would be no problem there (cant be too weighty mind, or squirmy)
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[veeeffarr]

Bear in mine that he would be extremely vulnerable in a top box if you came to crash though

[lap_time]

Lol - when I saw the title I thought you were talking about F1 and F2 sidecars...started reading and thought 'wtf does this guy want to take a dog on a sidecar outfit for?!'...
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[biggerjohn]

Just though I would mention a chap I meet a few years back that had modified his top box for his dog.

He did a lovely job he made the box taller and set up a hole with wind shield for the dog to look through on the top padding inside and out (he was also concerned about binning it with the dog) but best of all the dog loved it and would get into a right strop if he was been left behind.

So it is all doable it will just take a bit of imagination

[stinkwheel]

[Sadie]

Interesting thread for me, because I was considering a sidecar outfit so that I could transport my dog also. This is as much because she loves bikes as it is about transportation.

However, mine is a wee bit too big at seven and a half stone for a tank bag, and I wouldn't be happy with her in a trailer so it will be a sidecar if anything.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

There was a Blackbird at Bassets Pole last year with a top box modified to carry a dog. Much of the lid cut away, and a point to clip the dogs lead to inside the box. The dog seemed quite happy.

Or you could just do what I saw in Australia, which was a guy on a BMW K100 going down the freeway at about 120kmh with his dog stood on the petrol tank, just holding itself on by wedging its nose under the bars. The dog was not tied to the bike. Suspect in the UK this would not be looked on favourably (this was a large bike run to Philip Island, and this guy was one of the marshalls).

All the best

Keith
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[mistergixer]

I saw a guy riding in Seoul S. Korea with a pet monkey sat on top of his lid.
Just wished i'd had my camera ready.

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[TheShaggyDA]

How about a trailer? Bit easier to connect/disconnect than a sidecar. There's some on the F2 Motorcycles site.
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[satans_BIG_helper]

from what ive been told over the past day a trailer would be a lot more suitable for what i want and a lot easier to ride with it attatched

So maybe a cheap trailer to convert would be a better idea

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